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Genuinely curious, what part of the tweet you linked to do you consider to be Russian propaganda?

The part where he repeats Russian propaganda points.

Like when he says they should do "elections under UN supervision". In a region which just experienced mass deportation of it's habitants and mass migration of native russians, by force, in the last months.

Also, he absolutely glosses over the fact that Russia blatantly broke the Budapest Memorandum. How can you trust them at all ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum

You’re not giving Musk enough credit. Do you think taking these things into account wasn’t part of his proposal? What do you think he would answer if he got a direct question about this part?

He literally revised his poll when he did get direct questions about it, because he obviously hadn't thought any of it through. Absolutely blows my mind how many little fanboys he has that will perform incredible feats of mental gymnastics just to lickspittle themselves at his feet.

> Do you think taking these things into account wasn’t part of his proposal?

I presume it was about as well thought-out as the original Twitter purchase offer.

Why would I give the fellow who hired a private investigator to smear and destroy a hero rescuing children because said hero wouldn't support his moronic submarine proposal the benefit of the doubt?

How about the guy who is being sued to buy twitter way over face value because he decides the disposition of billions by tweet?

The man is a fool who buys and takes credit for better men's work who got his start with apartheid money. He doesn't deserve credit or your hero worship.

Also mass murder of its inhabitants.

The part where he referred to the country of Ukraine as "Khrushchev's mistake", for one.

"Khrushchev’s mistake" is a uniquely russian narrative.

No western historian would ever use this, you can only get this from russian propaganda sources like "Moskovskiy Komsomolets" or from someone who's influenced by it.

I wonder where did Musk get this from. And what other memes of russian's version of history he got.

The "Khrushchev’s mistake" part.

The part that doesn't make the US military industrial complex money and send countless young men into the meat grinder.

what?

No war with Russia is bad for the likes of Halliburton and Raytheon, they are really struggling since they are accustomed to constant profits since 9/11, as matter of pure coincidence the US media conglomerates are also big fans of war and someone with a submarine is blowing up pipelines and ratcheting up tensions.

If you paid any attention in 2001 you've heard this song before.

Putin MUST not be allowed to win in Ukraine as that will just embolden him to take over more land.

Take over more land....where? Every other country on his western border is already in NATO, which will absolutely trigger an overwhelming US response, and given how his military is vastly underperforming expectations in Ukraine, even Russia's kleptocrat leadership knows they wouldn't stand a chance in such scenarios.

"Take over more land....where"

Moldova.

Wake me up when he gets to US shores, Europe can defend themselves. We already lost a generation of lives and treasure in the middle east, America needs to rest for a while.

"Europe can defend themselves"

Moronic attitudes like this led to WW2

Mutual defence pacts led to WW1.

My grandfather bled on a beach where his fellows wet the sand with their life so lesser men can wake from their comfortable rest and yawn for more leisure. We gave our word and pledged our strength to defend our allies. We shall not break our world and tarnish our honor so that they can rest from the grievous burden of turning on their tv to watch what other men do in their stead.

Then if you really want to make those contractors sad let the embers of WWIII never catch flame because they were snuffed out by a few bombs instead of being smothered by 10s of thousands of our dead.

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