> I'm not going to defend google, but really, in this case we're hurting the education of thousands of children over something silly. Because the alternative to google education isn't going to be Linux and some European cloud alternative, because that simply doesn't exist, it's going to be Microsoft and the exact same data siphons. And this is really just a small part of the real world issue.

Nextcloud exists, and it can serve a school just fine.

In fact The EU is partnering with NextCloud to get rid of Office 365(1)

Nextcloud is not fully there yet, but the only way to push it to compete is to support local alternatives by giving them an advantage.

Even though I still think Nextcloud is being held back by technical decisions(PHP and its slowness and

It feeling janky)

> There is no European alternative to Azure or AWS, and while they are more GDPR compliant than Google, it's not like they are a safe bet either. So where do you put your infrastructure? In Azure or AWS and bet on the bureaucrats not coming for you, or in a worse alternative?

OVH is literally the fifth biggest internet hosting provider, and Hetzner is 6th according W3techs(2)

> I'm a fan of the GDPR, you might not think so after reading what I just wrote but I am. I just think that maybe they should have worked on giving us some European options first. Especially since they seem to give the NSA access anyway, even though it's done in secret. But an executive order isn't really going to help us, because who knows what the next American government might do to it. Nobody in enterprise is going to bet their infrastructure strategy on american politics anymore.

This is a specific case to Denmark, when looking at Europe in general the legal requirement (and some times bans) of Google analytics created GDPR friendly alternatives like Plausible.io and Posthog.

And you can see the same thing with Nextcloud or EU hosting and many other things.

Things take time, and result are starting to show up.

2. https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/data_center

1. https://nextcloud.com/blog/european-governments-work-with-ne...