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In Ukraine, the US is dragging us towards war with Russia – John Pilger

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6 pointsmardiyah6 comments

The author is way out there. Nice description of Putin the peacemaker!

The article appears to specifically blame a group for doing something and then claims that the real evil that was perpetrated was that people were blocked from helping, and this was based off a single Facebook post, ‘The quotation from a doctor who says he was "stopped by pro-Ukrainian Nazi radicals" was from an account on a Facebook page that has subsequently been removed.’

With everything we learned about Russia’s funding of disinformation on social media platforms, this article seems to be an example of something that makes a lot of conjecture based on very little evidence.

In hindsight, it might be a great example of something that was completely manipulated by social media disinformation campaigns.

Given how this event fits into Feb 2014, then this article appears to try to find context for the author's sensibilities. And I agree, somewhat unconnectly brings his geopolitical analysis along.

I think a clearer piece on those sensibilities is:

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/05/03/ukra-m03.html

And my recollection at the time was that the trade union hall didn’t even represent the majority of deaths that month in Western press.

You can estimate that there is far more western Propaganda on the English speaking net than Russian one and vice versa and it isn't even close. An example of propaganda is the level and extend of foreign propaganda. Nobody is really asking questions which messages and which channels are used. That would counter the alleged propaganda, but it very likely just doesn't exist to that extend. Extensive Journalism should ask the question at least. Every country is far more focused on domestic messaging to garner support.

That said, the aggression was initiated by Russia alone, maybe because their interpretation of the US dealings in Ukraine were wrong. Even American citizens had questions about their own dealings there. It should not be surprising that there is focus on a country bordering Russia and how such dealings are perceived should be a task of ambassadors and intelligence services, even if the involvement was just plain cooperation. But even in that case you would probably need justification. Doesn't mean Russia would be legally invading or that there is a justification to do so. But this wouldn't be a too special event in international politics.

2014

Exactly the point.

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