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‘I'm Dropping My Covid Hubris,’ Vows a Top Immunologist

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> Al-Aly and two other researchers looked at the health records of 250,000 veterans who had been infected once with COVID; 36,000 who had been infected twice, and 2,000 who had been infected three times.

> Using a “hazard ratio” — a measure of how often bad things happen to one group compared to another — the researchers found that the risk of heart, brain, kidney and blood complications all increased with each subsequent infection.

So does this sound like something in the same ballpark as "antibody dependent enhancement" to anyone else? And is there any reason to expect that "real" infections count but vaccine doses don't?

The numbers I heard for transient heart issues from the vax are 1 in 15,000

My own research tells me the months long cardiac issues I got when getting COVID happen 100 times (or more) frequently.

Over 12 billion doses have been administered. Using your claim (100 times worse than 1/15000) we should expect to see 800 million cases of transient heart issues. It seems unlikely that such a number would go unnoticed

I believe that's a wrong way to look at it, even if we take OP's (in my view, hyperbolic) rhetoric.

15'000 vaccines administered = ~7500 people, taking avg. 2 shots per person.

Per OP, we should see heart-related issues for 1 out of 15'000 vaccines administered and hence to 7500 people, which is already 100x more than what it should be.

Comes out to be +0.013% increase.

However, [1] says 30M adults in the US were diagnosed with heart-related issues in 2018: these could be mild to severe issues. This is out of ~200M adult population of the US [2], so a rate of 15%. Note that these are the number of patients diagnosed - many more could potentially be undiagnosed, more so in developing and under-developed countries.

225M people have been administed Covid vaccines in the US. Per above statistic, at least 33.75M should've heart-related issues at some point in their lives under normal circumstances.

So, now, as per OP's claim and from what I understand, we should see +0.013% people being affected by heart-related issues at some point in their lives that can be attributed to vaccines, which comes out to be ~30'000 more people.

[1] https://www.healthline.com/health/heart-disease/statistics#W...?

[2] https://www.infoplease.com/us/census/demographic-statistics

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