How the iPhone Ruins Walking
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I've lived in a small city, less than 10k population (USA). Being able to walk anywhere and everywhere at any time is truly amazing. It takes 15 minutes to get most places in town at a brisk pace, if you aren't in a hurry you can take all sorts of neat routes.
One of the times of my life I love and miss the most is a summer I spent walking aimlessly for hours every night, usually following a set path to start and then branching off. It makes me sad that some people have never, and will never, be able to experience that.
I think this is a very US-centric view! I walk everywhere and take the metro to university/work. I love my neighbourhood and it's really enjoyable getting off your subway station and walking home along bars/restaurants/cultural venues etc
Likewise when someone writes a lot of long essays about how much he loves spending time in the woods and he can’t understand why no one goes hiking in the woods anymore I draw my conclusions from his actions, not words.
My last girlfriend was a great example of that. It was both confusing and infuriating because there was no way to know when she was being genuine about anything
If you don’t want to look on your phone, don’t look on your phone. Maybe other people will notice how happy you are. Or maybe they won’t.
Could they... love both?
I have yet to meet this unicorn.
Congratulations on meeting me, I expect you to treasure this rare experience forever.
Instagram is also full of that. One of the cesspools of humanity.
However this appears to be roughly the usual “modern clipart” image selection for the headline image for the article.
I often wonder whether the opportunity to stage your “life” in a beautiful place for social media is a part of why so many more people head into the woods than did ten or 20 years ago. I mean, the woods were there the whole time, and arguably the weather was better.
I encounter many miserable looking poorly equipped people constantly asking me to take selfies of them posing with a fake smile. I was stopped 7 times on a 50km hike recently.
People want to be seen to do it. They don’t appear to be enjoying it though.
Edit: ironically considering the article I tend to wear AirPods now because people don’t ask me to do it.
If they’re asking someone who is not themself to take a photo, the photo in question is, by definition, not a selfie.
As for the selfie, I’m on the fence on your semantic definition. I consider myself to be a meat flavoured selfie stick when asked. I’m merely a tool that happened to be walking past that is good for pointing their device at a bulbous ass obscuring the scenery.
But I have literally (in its original meaning!) never heard anyone but gw99 describe “pictures of myself taken by a bystander” as a selfie.
I’ve taken a lot of posed photos of tourists with their own cameras, I don’t see why “the camera is now a phone” would make that phenomenon merge with the specific thing people do with the front facing camera.
“Me, posed at destination” seems like a wholly distinct phenomenon to me.
Well, the wandering nature of the word has been linguistically noted since at least 2014 by my knowledge[1]. Read more linguist blogs, I guess?
Cars are better.
Roads are better.
And of course, maps are exponentially better. Not only in terms of directions. Discovery is exponentially better. That waterfall that only showed up on the USGS topo map, is now on the map in your pocket...and Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and Twitter.
And the Forest Service website.
Now, if they'd bring some Leave No Trace principles into the woods with them, that'd be great. Seeing how the eternal September played out on Usenet though, that may be a bit overly hopeful on my part.
I think so. For me and my friends, we’re not “staging our life”, but a lot of times I’ll see someone post a photo of a trail on Instagram or Strava and I’ll comment asking where it is. We still went out 10 years ago. We still took photos 10 years ago. But now it’s SO much easier to share what the different trails look like and it’s possible to share the exact GPX tracks with each other.
It’s a wonderful time to be wandering around in the woods and if someone just got into the hobby yesterday and wants to post the beauty of their quarter mile “hike” more power to them.
Why do you feel justified in that?
As for the rest of it, it sounds a little.. forced. As if there's some kind of conspiracy. Can't it be that people value control of their time/life over some amount of spontaniety? Tech provides them that, which makes all this a side effect of a choice people make.
The old options are all still there.
I feel this fits into our generation’s epidemic of, “everything bad is someone or something else’s fault.”
Increasingly this isn't the case. I'm Amish and people get hostile when I don't have a phone much less a smartphone. Flights, financial transactions of all types, a lot of travel requires it now for some aspect. Those services do not exist for us anymore. Most recently the nearby airport stopped being able to use printed flight passes because the new scanners were built to interface with the smartphone app for the airline, which uses a navy blue background on the boarding passes. Having a printed pass relegates you to a secondary delay to account for that regardless of boarding class.
Does someone paying for identical service as a person owning a phone still deserve to board with others despite the airline's issue with their hardware?
During the pandemic I went to a couple restaurants. They used to have printed menus, but they got rid of them as part of a "zero-contact" policy. Instead, they put little stickers with QR codes on the tables, which you had to scan with your phone to see an online version of the menu. Even now that COVID restrictions are basically over in my country, a lot of places seem to have decided that not having printed menus any more is the way to go. No smartphone? No food for you!
> During the pandemic I went to a couple restaurants.
One more detail about being phone-less, I was almost denied my 2nd vaccine for not having phone or email until I asked why Amish and homeless couldn't receive vaccines. I received it ultimately, but was warned that I would have difficulty traveling as I'm not 'in the system' as a result of this.
Do these peers also (like you) live life without routine access to a smartphone?
Does that help answer your question?
I'm not sure how to proceed. I don't like how the modern phones feel like you do not have control over anything but they do so much in the background. Any freer option seems to be a lot of compromise and work, and is only ever supported so long. I will have to take some time to look into it at some point, but I have managed to hold on for now.
Do you have any kind of plan or thoughts about the future?
With regards to phones? I probably will remain without a telephone as it hasn't become a barrier to things that are must-haves, mostly nice-to-haves.
I was reading a collection of articles written by Scottish-American mountaineer/naturalist John Muir in the 1870s. He was writing about wandering around various parts of California.
The thing that struck me is that he would describe picking a path towards a peak and just following it from the base of a mountain. That would be difficult these days because there is so much private land and fencing that you never know if you’re illegally trespassing or if a path goes through. In a city of course the land is nearly all private so you have to follow whatever paths have been laid out between public spaces.
I still enjoy walking around to the extent it’s possible but I do wonder what it would be like to be truly free to roam the countryside without fear of the law.
Nonsense. Unless I'm actively going somewhere for a specific time (interview, doctor, what not), almost every one of my walks will include a "I've not been down that road before" diversion. Or a "Oh, an SSVI[1] sign down that alley!" diversion. etc.etc.
(And I think 99.9% of those walks since 2011 has been with an iPhone in hand.)
> A device that forces us to look down and ignore changes in light.
Gibberish nonsense. People choose to look at their phones because their friends and family are in there, because they want to catch up on the news, or any one of a thousand other valid reasons that aren't "THE PHONE MAKES THEM LOOK!!!!"
[1] Sprinkler Stop Valve Inside
But they don't. Even on my currently limited interactions with the outside world, I see most people not staring down at a phone whilst walking. Even on a bus, where it's much safer to have your phone out (London still suffers from opportunist phone grabbers), it's nowhere near 100%.
[Caveat: I am not on all buses at all times, there may be buses where it hits 100%]
As an adult, this must be tempered with adult notions of private property, but sometimes the now-faded childhood thrill of exploration can be supplemented with the notion of committing a class 4 misdemeanor.
The reason I'm concerned about this individual is because I've almost never seen them not scrolling through twitter. When we're hanging out, eating food, etc it's always present.
The storytelling demon is the phone. Always reminding me of the story. Periodically tapping me on the shoulder. "Hey hey look at this! This is important!"
Having a device capable of communication practically anywhere, at any time, is something I happily carry.
Being required to carry an apple/google tracking device, constantly analysing & pimping you out, simply so you can buy an airline ticket, a train ticket, etc - is something I do begrudgingly.
Just as there ought to be a law accepting cash, there ought to be a law mandating that any online payments for things such as airline or train tickets should be accessible via a standard HTML web browser, firefox/safari/chrome. That way I could carry a linux phone without being worried if I'd get stuck at a border because I couldn't install some android app (and no, it won't run emulated because of some nonsensical 'security' measures).
> ears attuned to serendipity,
Ears attuned to.. the distant rumble of diesel engines. Maybe a few crows squawking. I don't think I'm missing out on much by tuning out city sounds.
Being able to switch to hearing the world without holding something in my hand is critical for a good time.
My thought is that this is an interesting new human behavior to observe, probably won’t last forever if we consider past technology cycles. So this is particular to this point in history.
I do a 12 mile walk at least once a week and I'll encounter maybe 2 or 3 people on average who'll smile and say hello. It's worth it just for that reasurance that not every other person is an arshole.
You don't "need to wander". Wandering is something that you may or may not do, but you don't need specific tech companies and products to stop existing, other people to modify their behavior, or a cultural precedent to inform your behavior for that to happen. "Without surveillance" also includes self-surveillance
Also kind of creepy and even illegal in some parts of the world.
It’s ok to leave your phone at home and wonder around… be it an iPhone, an Android or a “dump phone” they are just tools that facilitate certain activities.
>This raises a critical point: the loss of random encounters that are the basis of being what the French call a flâneur.
Maybe this is just the Seattle resident in me, but if a bunch of random people are trying to talk to me on my walk I would become annoyed very fast. I am trying to walk here, I am thinking!
I love walking aimlessly to no specific destination, I do it often. But don't "randomly encounter" me if I appear to be thinking.
Even in SEA or other big cities, people are more than happy to strike up conversation while waiting in line for food or tickets or any activity with mutual interest, but accepting random conversations while transiting from one place to another is a recipe for wasting one’s time or worse.
Every walk we take is random; the phone allows me to stay connect if I need to but doesn't control my path. My Apple Watch keeps track of my distance/time walking (I get an alert at 35 mins if I'm on an hour long walk => 25 mins to walk home). The AirPods are always in Transparency mode where I can fully hear what's going on in the city with some music I like playing as well.
If you want to wander; you will wander.
That the iPhone and ilk have demonstrated how few people wish to join you when not forced to do so sounds like a personal issue.
I enjoyed the article however. Random encounters end up with random connections, experiences, joys. It is one of the great parts of life.
downside is no music... but I do find peace in being 100% disconnected.
If this is a personal downside for you, the Apple Watch is a great solution for this, and there are many tiny MP3 players still being sold.
To be clear, capitalism has nothing to do with the problem the author brings up in this article. The existence of the iPhone does not imply the overuse of the iPhone, or the misuse of the iPhone. People choose to look at their phones while walking, and I find it as frustrating and ridiculous as the author, but it's got nothing to do with economics.
I never see phones out, but I still have to walk around people taking up entire sidewalks and aisles gazing absent-minded at something I can't see. People manage to wander despite the phone in their pocket, and it's annoying.
What we have here is a writer trying desperately to sound deep and failing completely without substance to fill the space. Is "we need to wander" the new "we need to stop writing" (Plato)? I see more and more of these trend pieces, and each is more vapid than the last.
If anything, Google Maps gives back time.
> But capitalism cannot tolerate “free” time and space. And, so, at last, we have the iPhone. A device that forces us to look down and ignore changes in light.
Perhaps things are different in different cities, but having one's gaze fixated upon a screen while walking is more of an exception than a rule. Even going about life with earbuds firmly implanted within one's ears is far from universal. Yet that does not make people watching any more interesting. You can attribute that capitalism not tolerating free time and space if you like. Personally, I think it has more to do with our streets being conduits for transportation rather than being appreciated as public spaces. It is not as though capitalism forbids free time. Indeed, much of it depends upon free time. Yet we still live in a world where many people won't go out unless they have a purpose, may that be going from point A to B or going for a jog to get/stay fit. Appreciating one's surroundings appears to be reserved for tourists.
Maybe it's a Dublin thing though.
I go on walks or bike rides and listen to podcasts or music or sometimes nothing. All those options are very nice.
They had a script running that added new flickr users as contacts (who would then usually add them back), then he would remove them after a month or so.
This is why they have "138.2K Followers•385 Following"
That sort of behaviour really diminished the community on flickr. But at least Koen made it work for them.
Overall, flickr compared to instagram is so pleasant these days, no spam, just photos and some really good curated group.
An increasing number of people have trouble telling the difference between the real world and the internet. It has all the hallmarks of mental illness, including compulsion and addiction.
As far as I'm concerned "internet famous" === not famous.
https://economie.fgov.be/en/themes/intellectual-property/int...
For others, it feels rude not to follow someone back.
It's in the former category that we find "that sort of behavior" — i.e., cheating.
Fast forward 20 years and I always have my phone in my pocket, and it feels like I’m on a leash.
Being able to communicate with anyone at any time is an amazing superpower. But not being able to be reached when you were out in the world was also really valuable. Especially as a young person exploring the world.
I know we can’t go back to that era, but it makes me sad that my kids won’t have the sensation of freedom that comes from bouncing around town with their friends, only searching for a pay phone when it was time to get a ride home.
Tl;dr: The lived experience of childhood seems to have gotten a lot shittier, and I think phones deserve some of the blame.
You can turn your phone off or leave it behind, but you are opting out of modern society. My father in law still doesn’t have a phone, and it drives his wife crazy.
For kids? Parents of older children use “taking the phone away” as the ultimate punishment. As I understand it, being a teen without a phone is basically being a pariah.
I can turn my phone off, but I can’t make the rest of the world do it too. Which leads to the scenario described in the article. You can’t amble around and meet people; they’re already busy.
Will you probably not end up being friends with those who demand plans to always be done last second? If you are always unreachable, maybe. But it's not like you're always going to be unreachable. You might miss out on some spontaneous events once in a while if you're intermittently unreachable... so what?
If you are always slow to reach, you just end up around people who don't only do last second planning. Oh no, isn't that what you wanted?
I think by talking about myself I distracted from my intended point though, which is the experience of being a child in the age of smart phones.
The sense of freedom and adventure of being a teen away from home seems incompatible with having an internet connected device on one’s person.
An anecodte: My neighbors are totally reasonable people. Their teenage daughter was an hour late home from school one day, and not answering her phone. They started canvassing the neighborhood, driving her usual route home, checking to see if any neighbors had seen her. She was fine, she went to get a burger with some friends and her phone was out of batteries.
Nothing about that story strikes me as unreasonable today, but when I was a teenager it would have seemed a ridiculous overreaction. Kids had impromptu hangouts regularly. Rarely would they phone home. Most parents were gone until after 5:00 anyway.
Our culture has changed in a direction that feels sad to me. I feel like something has been lost. It’s clear that this is a minority view on HN. Hopefully that means the average person experiences phone culture as a positive change.
That's exactly what would have happened to me, before the age of phones. Unreasonableness of parents has nothing do to with phones.
If anything, having a phone would have helped me stave off my parents and afforded me more freedom (not that it makes their behavior fine, but practically I would have probably been better off).
Yes. That's the whole point. You have a choice. Not only do you have a choice, but you can switch back and forth whenever you like. How can that be a bad thing?
> You can’t amble around and meet people
First, that's not really true. There are plenty of places you can still meet people.
Second, why would you want to "amble around and meet people"? The odds that you will have anything in common with some rando you meet on the street is pretty small. You're much better off using Meetup if you want to meet people.
(And the difficulty of meeting people nowadays has a lot more to do with covid than it does with cell phones.)
> Instead one chooses a destination and walks toward it. Along the way the route is commodified. Restaurants suggested instead of found. Parks digitally delineated instead of outlined by the contours of our promenades. >
In the UK increasingly one needs a credit/debit card, or a phone capable of NFC payments, to actually pay for things. The big-brand shops have most their self-checkouts as card-only & many shops are increasingly refusing cash. (There really ought to be a law mandating that all physical stores must accept legal tender as a condition of trade - else what is the point in cash?)
The parks and pavements here are increasingly blighted by bright digital advertising. Railway tickets are becoming harder to get in a non-digital form, for one example of the increasing dependence on phones.
Point is, the need for a phone, and a debit/credit card to go to a cafe, to take a train, etc, does remove the spontaneity and an element of joy from the experience. Being forced to carry a google or apple tracking device, or even 'just' a VISA/Mastercard makes me feel tethered to the 'capitalist' system - as this article puts it; but whatever you call it, capitalism or technocracy, the author is right.
Now that I’m in the USA it’s so much easier. Contactless everywhere. No need to carry cash or coins.
Plus it makes sure that people pay their dues. I pay my taxes, but the local taco guy around the corner who only accepts cash surely doesn’t. With electronic payments there is transparency.
No-one is forced to accept cash in the UK, not even government services, all it means if you owe someone money and you offer to pay them with “legal tender”, whilst they can refuse, they cannot sue you for not paying.
And that’s it!