Why Is the Central Valley So Bad?
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One thing the article doesn't seem to mention at all is the 2008 financial crisis. The Sacramento area got hit hard, especially suburbs like mine. My specific hometown, Elk Grove, rapidly expanded from being mostly farmland when I was a kid to being the poster child of suburban sprawl when I was a teenager. The population exploded, the housing supply exploded (and got outstripped by demand), and then in 2007/2008 it all came crashing down, with foreclosures and vacancies and squatters everywhere. I can imagine other Central Valley cities got hit similarly hard.
The article mentions people commuting from Central Valley cities to coastal cities. My dad was one of 'em for awhile, commuting from Sacramento to the Rite-Aid he managed on Van Ness in SF. He wasn't rich, and at the time neither was my mom; living closer to SF was out of the question even back then (especially after they divorced). My stepmom and her parents had emigrated from SF to Sac before meeting my dad, and she worked at the same store, making the same commute (and that's how they met, and were soon happily married 'til death did them part when he passed in May this year). It was indeed a long commute, leaving home before sunrise and getting back after sunset.
All in all, even Sacramento was kind of a shithole, let alone the rest of the Valley. Now it's an even more expensive shithole. I ended up leaving to work my first job (because few employers in Sac were willing to hire a high school graduate when they're being flooded with college graduate applicants), and I haven't really looked back; decent memories, but neither the present nor future are appealing - especially when it looks like we're on the verge of another 2008.
The US working class is so fucked
Unfortunately, between his health issues putting him on disability and the 2008 crash, that childhood home had to go. He had already moved to Yuba City with my stepmom and younger sisters (to be closer to her new job as an ultrasound tech), so it wasn't catastrophic, but it didn't seem like they quite recovered from that, nor did they really want to; my dad knew his days on this Earth were numbered, and rightfully cared more about enjoying the time he had left than fretting over trying to be a homeowner again.
But yes, while all things considered we were relatively fortunate, a lot of people I knew weren't - and still ain't - so lucky.
Forget the contiguous geographic restriction for a moment, if I instead said the median of income in the poorest 5% of California was less than the median income of Mississippi would anyone find that surprising in the slightest? What about the poorest 5% of counties having a median income less than mississippi? Still not surprising. Requiring the contiguous areas would increase the income somewhat-- but we know that activities and income are not geographically independent.
And there's a political nexus that isn't mentioned in the article, which is the massive post-60's policy shifts that have remained the norms ever since. In the early 60's, there was still a Bracero program. By the mid-70's the farm owners were bussing in illegal immigrants, and the "drug wars" had started, helping to keep those countries destabilized and easy to draw workers from. Agribusiness deals in commodities, so unless there's coordinated top-down enforcement of standards and practices, it quickly converges on exploitation or automation to remain price-competitive. The 70's saw an energy crunch; appetite to attempt further mechanization for fruits and the like would have been limited, if it were even possible. Today's inflationary environment, battery EV and robotics suggests we're due for a rethink of that, which would completely upend longstanding narratives around immigration.
The growth of the South Bay is likewise instructive; it used to be a fruit orchard. But post-war, it picked up steam as a military-industrial hub, from which Silicon Valley emerged, again with the 70's marking a certain turning point as computing started to access a mass market, at first with integrated circuit devices and then with microprocessors. That was a better business to be in, after all; a lot of land got sold off and developed, and San Jose eagerly annexed everything around it to become the big city of the area while the Peninsula cities mixed the high-end talent from Stanford with an emerging VC business. Again, a largely unchanged dynamic until very recently.
California HSR has the goal of linking the Valley with the coast cities. One hypothesis would be that this would revitalize those cities and bring them into the urban ecosystem of the coast. Another is to look at Japan's Shinkansen experience and say, "all cities are suburbs of Tokyo", i.e. living in Fresno, you'd most likely be a supercommuter who uses the train to get to SF or LA, but is still effectively "off the map" in terms of local vitality.
[0] Fields Without Dreams
[1] Mexifornia, a State of Becoming
[2] The Land Was Everything: Letters From An American Farmer
Nit: nut harvesting is heavily automated. This is a pretty good overview of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql9NIPilcPI
What I have also noticed with people that have this sentiment is they have some group to blame, not a solution.
Would farming more profitable cashcrops or moving away at least paritally from agriculture help? Would better housing decelopemnt (more housing density but at a competitive price, not for thr poor) bring housing costs down?
Also, central valley feels a lot like conservatice states as thr article points out. That includes intolerance to other people and ideas.
It's easy to pass ideological laws when you work in a nice office park, or in your Ivory tower in Mill Valley or Nob Hill--but there are a lot of people now who work low level jobs and now have homeless tweakers living outside their house--something that was not a problem even a decade ago. California is sabotaging and self-destructing. None of the progressive laws have improved people's quality of life--they've had the opposite impact for most. But as democrats have increasingly become an elitist and PMC focused political party, they don't care that there is rising black on Asian crime, homeless people in nearly ever public space, and shoplifting and open drug use are not just status quo parts of SF.
I say this all as a Bernie voter and someone who has NEVER voted republican, but I have lived all over California and have a pretty good sense of how typical SF citizens misunderstand what's really pissing people off in the Central Valley. It's not all guns and abortion--it's about what actually impacts them and their kids.
I am asking this in sincerity not to support one view or the other.
Combine all that with no-cash bail reform and Martin vs Boise, and now you're basically legalized crime and criminals can just loiter and sleep where ever they want and even when they are arrested, they're released almost immediately and back on the street with zero consequences. Schools now have homeless camps within shouting distance where kids can see people using meth, prostitutes, mentally ill people exposing themselves to children.
None of this was a problem before these laws were passed. Sure, Fresno was never a "rich" town, but the level of wanton destruction that's been heaped on it and the rest of the Central Valley because of ridiculous and frankly ignorant laws like Prop 46/47 and court precedents like Martin vs Boise, are not helping the average person's quality of life. This is why the democrats continue to lose voters--even non-white voters are leaving the party. Look at how democrat mayors allow Asians to be targeted over and over and over again by thieves (just google Little Saigon in Oakland). Where does this all end?
>than a correlation of drought and recessions impacting the agriculture industry
No offense, but this is just a stupid question. None of the drug users and mentally ill people you see smoking meth or shooting fentanyl were working in agriculture. Do you actually think that or what this just a rhetorical question? It's actually pretty offensive if you think ag workers are equated with homeless drug users. It's very obviously a drug and mental illness problem--not an economic one.
Of course but less money in the local economy means less jobs and opportunities right? What should the drug using thieves do instead? That's my question really. Are there good jobs they are turning down? Should they go to a different state and use drugs and steal there?
I agree if your point is that they’re doing the best option they see for themselves—but I blame voters for radically changing the consequences and incentives to it all. If you’re addicted to fentanyl, yeah going around committing theft and shitting in public places probably seems like a great idea. It’s the responsibility of the rest of society to not allow that—but now we’ve backed ourselves into a corner. All this proves to me is that the road to hell is paved in good intentions.
Also your comment about having them only pick up trash or something menial is interesting because unless you are paying them a lot of moneu that won't happen. There is plenty of construction that should be happening in california where these people can help (after rehab of course), all this land being hit with drought can perhaps be converted to support manufacturing? Also, why is there no "outsourcing" tax? If apple is making all of its iphones overseas, tax the crap out of them to subsidize employers who are hiring undesirable workers at a livable wage (unless you support UBI). My solution is to force the coastal rich liberals to invest their money in the central valley or lose it anyways by way of taxation.
Everyone is saying "rich liberals" but you just don't have millions of millionaires voting to make those props happen. It is usually people who make under 150k that get in line with this thinking.
Prison is simply a waste of money and human potential. But for crimes with an actual victim like theft, I agree with you that there needs to be a consequence. Perhaps fines where if you can't pay with money you do forced labor? "Community service" is already there.
From what I have seen many social issues like this can be fixed with housing as well. More housing means cheaper housing (that you have to oay for, not free). Give everyone involved an incentive to contribute to society and become a healthy human being basically.
I have no idea why bakersfield and fresno are not filled with high rise condos and there isn't a fast rail/train to the coastal cities for the transplants that can't afford to live there (and solve those cities' homeless issues as well).
The one consistent thing I am seeing in cali is there isn't enough innovation, building things, repurposing things. I blame a lot of this on california being such a nice place to live everyone resists change that might affect that (NIMBYism is one such resistance). Specifically central valley though: they're about as tolerant to outsiders as rural texas from what I've seen. Again, competition for resources makes people be hostile and disteustful of each other which contributes to resistance to solutions.
I agree with you about good intentions but the same can be said about laziness and complaining. If Prop 46/47 suck, let's talk about a better way to do things without paying any attention to left/right wing party-line policies.
Thanks for your insight, I feel like I have a better perspective on the complexity of the problems now.
I think a missing piece if obviously Universal Healthcare and again--this is why I blame democrats for being incompetent and deceitful--they went through an entire pandemic where not even the left-most members of the party advocate for Universal Healthcare. Democrats legalize drugs and theft and camping in public spaces--but they do nothing about access to healthcare, raising wages, etc. The neoliberals and PMCs who took over the party have made it a right wing party--they abandoned actual leftist policies. Meanwhile, they feign support for banning stock trading then Obama neutered the Stock Act which allows Pelosi (and 80 or so other democrats and 100 or so republicans) to continue insider trading. Democrats are as much of a problem as republicans on all these issues.
>From what I have seen many social issues like this can be fixed with housing as well. More housing means cheaper housing (that you have to oay for, not free). Give everyone involved an incentive to contribute to society and become a healthy human being basically.
Housing first policies don't work. In SF and Seattle and Portland, a lot of the "homeless" are actually housed individuals in SROs or other public housing but since they don't have jobs they just hang out not the street and do drugs and steal. This is what I mean about democrats being incompetent. There should be an agreement we'll give you housing but you will lose it if you continue being a criminal.
>Specifically central valley though: they're about as tolerant to outsiders as rural texas from what I've seen
Hard disagree. There are a ton of first generation Mexican and other Central Americans there and lots of first/second/third generation Vietnamese and more frequently Indians/Pakistanis. I get the vibe from your comments you've only actually passed through these towns and not actually spent real time there.
What I meant was build good houses and condos for working people. That will make overall housing cheaper.
> I get the vibe from your comments you've only actually passed through these towns and not actually spent real time there
Sort of, I spent a few days here and there. Parts of it I saw confederate flags all over. Soneone there also told me which parts are hardcore right wing.
I have no idea what that has to do with my comment.
In any case, whether people kayak on water that's already flowing out to sea has just about zero bearing on the drought.
> Also, you need to spend some time in really poor areas of the country to get a proper perspective on how lucky we are in CA
The coasts are lucky(-ish, depending on whether or not you own land). The valley, per the article's calculations, is literally one of those "poor areas of the country".
Let's look at the blessings that class has brought:
- Failure of MTBE additive which poisoned groundwater, had to be reverted, and will take decades to pay off adding ~$1 to CA gas prices
- Pollution which flows downstream from Northern CA into a basin where it stays (those lovely SF winds blow that somewhere)
- A patronage system that spends all of its education money and qualitative goods in urban areas while denying those same benefits to the valley. Instead, economy and society destroying welfare is handed out that has low social capital.
- Political vengeance with diverting ~50% of available agricultural water to the ocean to protect for a variety of fish
- Buying off districts with political pork so that CA could have a veto-proof majority and not have budgetary constraints with the R minority. You thought the bullet train was a bug?... it was the feature. There was no intent to ever finish that train.
- Disabling of power plants via PG&E and a benchmark electricity rate that is based upon temperature ranges in.. you guess it, San Francisco. Combine punitive, non-linear prices with a location that gets in the 110s in the summer benchmarked on the temperatures of Northern California, their poorer southern neighbors pay substantially more in electricity.
- Massive illegal immigration. Those statistics were just legal. CA has well over 8 million illegal immigrants and almost all live either as transients or in crime-ridden areas where crime is not reported because of political inconveniences.
I could go on, but it won't matter. California hates the Central Valley, and hates the people in it. And that, coupled with sanctimonious how-could-this-be? ignorance is why I left.I live in one of the cities mention in the article and yes, this disdain is apparent. When I go to cons in the bay, I hate mentioning where I'm from. The look on peoples' faces ranges from contempt to disgust.
California has always had a costal/valley divide. You can read newspaper articles from the early 20th century about how money shouldnt be spent on the then-new hwy 99 because those on the coast don't want to fund valley projects. The same sentiment exists in the HSR discussions today. That's one example, and for nearly every issue there is a similar costal/valley dynamic. We often hear of the NorCal/SoCal division, but for political issues, we really should be talking about coastal/valley differences.
I have neither an explaination, nor a call to action, but I know that I often feel like an outsider in both places. Not everyone here fits a type, just like how not everyone fits a type where ever one lives.
Completely agree. It's something I have also experience numerous times--especially in college where basically people from SF/LA/SD would be extremely judgmental and basically write you off just knowing where you grew up.
The San Joaquin River flows south to north.
Same as it ever was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mussel_Slough_Tragedy