A platform whose audience is mostly teenagers is the wrong place to ban streamers actively promoting gambling?
How is that even remotely censorship?
How is that even remotely censorship?
A meaningful definition would highlight the desire to suppress a point of view, and you're going to have a hard time justifying "gambling as a point of view", because it's not really a position on an issue.
It's censorship in the sense that things are censored, i.e., prevented from being shown or communicated, which is the definition of the word "censorship". Putting a black bar over someone's genitals or bleeping profanity is also censorship. It's just not government censorship, and therefore has no relation to freedom of speech.
The text box here being limited to 5000 chars (or w/e size it actually is) would be censorship under that definition. The fact that I can't also upload audio to HN would be censorship. Does acoustic physics censor me because I can't yell loudly enough for everyone to hear my views on how to cook pasta correctly (salt, the secret is salt)?
I just don't find those things to be in the same category as a government arresting protestors, for example, and I don't find Twitch banning otherwise illegal gambling content to be in that same category, either.
I just don't find those things to be in the same category as a government arresting protestors, for example,
Correct; that is government censorship. There is not, however, a qualitative difference between Twitch deciding to ban one behavior from being depicted over another, whether it be gambling, nudity, racism, or people doing that trick with their spit where they let it stretch down several inches and suck it back into their mouths.
I'm not seeing a real "point of view" being expressed here, which IMO is also an important part of censorship.
Well your opinion disagrees with the dictionary. I don't know what to tell you.
Because I'm having a hard time believing "watch me gamble on sites that I'm not legally allowed to gamble on" really qualifies as "a point of view" or "expression" in a meaningful sense (though yes, I bet if we pulled out our Webster's Dictionaries we could squeeze the definition into this conversation somehow).
A kid watches gambling, what's the harm? They're gambling in school, it's a tail as old as time. Magic cards, pokémon cards, pogs, marbles. They all have aspects of gambling.
According to GlobalWebIndex in Q2 2019, this is an approximation of the age demographic on Twitch, ranging in age from 16-64 years in age:
16 to 24 year olds: 41% 25 to 34 year olds: 32% 35 to 44 year olds: 17% 45 to 54 year olds: 7% 55 to 64 year olds: 3%
From https://www.streamscheme.com/twitch-statistics/:
> In 2022 the age demographic on Twitch is as follows:
> 18 to 24-year-olds: 35.85%
> 25 to 34 year-olds: 32.14%
> 35 to 44-year-olds: 15.33%
> 45 to 54-year-olds: 8.62%
> 55 to 64-year-olds: 4.97%
Children have been lying about their age on the internet since the beginning of the internet. Any service that says no children are using it without very sold proof is ignorant or lying.
Their platform, their rules.