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I don’t know anything about The Daily Sceptic. what makes it such a piece?

Just look at their front page: it's full of AGW denialism and anti-ecologism, conspiracy theories (e.g. Bill Gates and global health...), use of terms like "covid propaganda", ...

What makes Bill Gates' well timed and well documented investments in vaccine companies and donations to public health organizations a conspiracy theory?

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/14/global-covid-pandem...

"Oh look!! He knew there would be a pandemic!!"

So you see where is the conspiracy theory in that, now?

I assume you are referring to this article: https://dailysceptic.org/2022/09/20/the-growing-menace-of-bi...

Can you point out where it says he knew there would be a pandemic?

Do you think the public deserves to know that Bill Gates and his foundation contributed $789 million to the World Health Organization in 2021 (more than the U.S. Government)?

The tone of the article is "ohlolo Bill Gates is evil, look at how he is the one who finances thus controls the WHO", which is false, as this financial contribution gives him ZERO control on it. Yet it is implied in the tone of the article.

The part "he knew there was a pandemic" is actually a reply to the previous commentator speaking about "well timed and well documented investments" from Bill Gates related to the pandemic, which is a way to present it as "he knew what was coming, how weird". Now I hope you see why, at least in that commentator post, that sounded extremely conspiracy theoretical.

I hadn't heard about it before either, but you can get a good overview by following the link and having a look at the sidebar where their typical content seems to be featured.

who is Spee Chunion and why does he need to be freed?

Or just reading the article, which features some things the author feels caused them to be “cancelled”.

They’re a right wing “bastion of free speech” and proud of it.

Is there something intrinsically bad about "right wing" now?

Yes. See literally the world around you.

Seems like a very balanced perspective.

Do you have a counter-argument?

Anything at all to show how right wing ideology is not literally and figuratively destroying the world?

And the cure for this is driving it underground via censorship?

You asked if there is something bad about “right wing”, I explained there is, you disagreed and have no counter-arguments to hold up.

Stick to the topic you yourself established, don’t move the goal posts.

If you have nothing more to contribute, then don’t.

where did you hear such a good idea?

> literally [...] destroying the world

Left-wing ideology is trying to drive five billion people, as fast as possible, to first-world living standards (via either open borders fanaticism, direct aid, or economic globalization), with the accompanying carbon footprint implied by a first-world lifestyle.

All whilst bemoaning carbon emissions.

Yawn. Wake me when your own ideological compatriots demonstrate your concern for the climate with policies that won't absolutely destroy it. As it currently stands, you're actively trying for 500ppm.

>Left-wing ideology is trying to drive five billion people, as fast as possible, to first-world living standards (via either open borders fanaticism, direct aid, or economic globalization), with the accompanying carbon footprint implied by a first-world lifestyle.

what you're describing here is capitalism.

Careful now. "Right" and "left" are over-simplified labels covering a very broad range of preferences, and sometimes used as badges of self-identity in order to make arbitrary ideologies more palatable to the general public. For example, the actual literal Nazi party's name translates as "nationalist socialist", even though they hated communism so much that communists were one of the groups sent to the death camps, and they chose this name because socialism was a vote-winner in Weimar-era Germany.

Probably the same kind of people who replied to me "and so what is bad about nationalism?" a few weeks ago on HN...

I believe there was a worldwide war specifically to stop some right wing extremists from taking over and killing anyone they didn't like

Godwin's law in action.

I completely agree with "right-wing=bad", but this isn't a useful argument

It's just your run of the mill far right misinformation laundered into a slightly more respectable look by pretending to be "sceptics" - but their scepticism is only ever applied to positions they already disagreed with and entirely absent when the view is politically expedient.

They're associated with the Free Speech Union which is happy to fight for the left.

Please restrain your misinformation. You agree you should now have your bank accounts closed?

They mentioned that their covid denialist partners got banned before them :)

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