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These prices are beyond insulting

The 3080 released for $800 USD in Jan 2021 which one calculator[1] says is $905 USD with inflation. So a 4080 is $900. At least they are consistent.

edit: 3080 12 GB, that is. The original 3080 was $700 USD in Sep 2020 which is $800 in 2022. So the base 4080 is priced above that.

They're competing against an over-bloated secondhand market, AMD, Intel, much better integrated GPUs

For the 4080/4090 pricing, the only competition is AMD.

Just glancing at some benchmarks, the Intel ARC A380 is worse than a GTX 1650[2] and the best integrated graphics I know of is the Ryzen 7 5700G which is worse than a 1050[3]. I don't see why these would affect 4080/4090 pricing at all.

1. https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm

2. https://www.pcgamer.com/official-intel-arc-380-benchmarks/

3. https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-7-5700g-revie...

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The $900 one is the 12GB version, which is basically a 4070 compared to the 16GB version, because the memory is not the only difference, but also a different core count, memory bus size and clock speed, which is frankly even more insulting.

The "actual" 4080 16GB is $1200.

The 3080 (10GB) and 3080 (12GB) also had a core count difference, although they did not release simultaneously.

But I realized I did give the price for the 3080 (12 GB) model, which I corrected in an edit. So I think you're sort of right in the sense that the 4080 (12GB) is priced above the 3080 (10GB) in real terms, and that the 4080 (16GB) is priced way above the 3080 (12 GB) in real terms.

PC gaming today: pay absurd prices, take time setting everything up, sit in an uncomfortable desk chair hovering a mouse.

Console gaming: cheaper, plug it in your tv and you're done, sit on your couch, use a controller.

I use a PC for a lot of things but gaming will never be one of them. The console looks great as it is.

I really miss keyboard and mouse on gaming console. It's weird that devices originally for non-gaming is better than a gaming oriented device, but gamepad is really painful for some games like FPS/TPS.

The mouse is fundamentally a precision aiming device. There's just no credible substitute, it enables whole categories of games.

They’re different markets though. It’s like $50 bluetooth keyboards for the everyday user versus $200 mechanical keyboards with replaceable keycaps. The latter intentionally requires tinkering because it’s geared towards an enthusiast that enjoys the tinkering.

Outside of the true exclusives, console games are just a subset of PC games. So as a PC gamer, you get access to console games + the majority of MOBA, MMO, RTS, 4X.

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