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I always wonder why you need a design system for a dev first product. MaterialUI + theme palette would be enough most probably but I guess its the (soon to be over) age of free money.

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I hear you on "don't build your own design system"... but Datadog's got a really complex UI, I think they've definitely graduated past the point where something like MUI would be a good choice (and obviously they have the resources to do an internal design system, and do it well).

For Datadog I think it makes sense.

Material UI... in 2022? Why not just return to Bootstrap?

what's wrong with material UI? it's fine for people building admin panels, ERP and what not AKA real apps, not websites. What would you use instead?

Literally anything. Unstyled HTML tags are better

Using something like Material UI is always a great idea to get you moving quickly. But eventually you reach an annoyance point once you scale up the number of components you're creating. Especially if you need more customized things. The layers of hacks and work around start to get confusing. And new folks give you lots of WTF comments.

Same reason people build new libraries or languages. They feel limited by the "thing" they're using. :)

I cannot wait for material ui to die and go by the wayside

It's fine for what it is - a batteries included component library. Not a lot of the current ones come close. Maybe Mantine or Semantic but there's not a lot of great ones out there.

What is better if you want to build admin GUI and you want to spend little time with style sheets?

Use tailwind with the most basic class applications.

Antd

https://ant.design/

I've used both and don't find Antd to be better than mui. I find mui more enjoyable and more feature full but it seems to be a marginal difference.

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