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Thank you. One addition:

- Video cards are 78% of revenue for EVGA.

I think this was 78% of gross revenue. As OP stated, the GN video makes it clear that the margin on this was, in many cases, negative.

Thank you for the clarification!

Is pulling out of video cards now related to Etherium switching to POS? As in, downward pricing pressure for GPUs means they’ll never see positive margins in the foreseeable future? That combined with NVIDIA being hard to deal with makes it not worth it?

Not in the slightest. Even if there were no crypto mining, videos cards would all still get purchased.

Maybe… depends on how many they make. If there is an oversupply, margins will still suffer.

Prices are in free fall and cards sit. 3090 ti is down to $1000 new. At the height of mining, a 3090 went for $3400.

> As OP stated, the GN video makes it clear that the margin on this was, in many cases, negative.

No - the margin is in many cases negative, right now, with high-end GPUs 50% below MSRP. This is an important distinction.

Margins were great for 2 years, EVGA's GPU department made tons of money during that time even with a few gestures towards the public. He lost tons of money during those years with frivolous, high-R&D, high-ongoing-support-cost ventures like entering the motherboard and enthusiast monitor market.

But PSUs make 300% more profit.

Maybe so, but I wonder how much of their PSU sales come from the excellent reputation of their GPUs.

When I bought my power supply several years ago, I went with the highest rated one from johnnyguru at the time which was an EVGA one. It is only one anecdote but at the time at least, the G3 EVGA power supply came highly recommended from johnnyguru with comprehensive tests completed.

G2 was the only ever recommended, G3 had issues with some protection circuits.

I do not remember that and this is the first I have heard of that issue. My G3 has had zero issues in 5 years of operation. Do you happen to have a link to that?

Seeing as johnnyguru is not available as far as I can tell this is the only proof I have: https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/5kl4v0/jonny_guru...

The Internet Archive is your friend: https://web.archive.org/web/20200702165629/http://www.jonnyg...

It had a total score of 9.8 out of 10

IIRC the EVGA G3 failed the ATX requirement of holding voltage after mains goes down, dropping way too quickly. It was the only one of several that they tested in a group review. Not sure how much storage vendors relies on those milliseconds, but I decided to get something else.

I wish the site was still up because I swear the EVGA SuperNova G3 was the highest rated power supply johnnyguru ever reviewed. Their review from my memory never covered that. I may have that all wrong seems multiple people remember the issue.

To be fair, it rated well on most other aspects as I recall.

I found a review by Tom's Hardware where it barely passed the minimum[1]. It's not unreasonable small differences between PSU units and measurement equipment leading to it just failing for some other reviewer.

To be fair, I recall it was rated well in other categories, and the Tom's Hardware review does as well.

[1]: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/evga-supernova-650-g3-p...

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