† Except to the extent that the police won't give chase in Chicago, just like pretty much every other major city, since police chases were killing innocent bystanders on the regular before they were essentially banned everywhere.
† Except to the extent that the police won't give chase in Chicago, just like pretty much every other major city, since police chases were killing innocent bystanders on the regular before they were essentially banned everywhere.
I grew up in Chicago, many of my family and friends still live there. I would categorize your experience as both atypical and extremely privileged. You should hesitate before extrapolating.
The original comment just says the cops refused to chase... which you yourself acknowledge as likely in a child comment. If you believe that carjackings happen and that the police are unlikely to chase, I'm not sure what else there is to deny.
That is, other than the implicit challenge to the idea of an extremely safe gentrified Chicago. Violent crime doesn't only happen in Englewood. There's a pretty wide range of neighborhoods between Garfield Park and Edgebrook.
https://www.nbcchicago.com/investigations/chicago-police-sta...
I don't know what the loop is, but could probably find Lincoln Park, but in general looks like you could use official data to disprove the claim: https://data.cityofchicago.org/widgets/dfnk-7re6?mobile_redi...
I did some Googling and found this 2013 policy order: https://www.sanfranciscopolice.org/sites/default/files/2018-...
TL;DR: Pursuits are only authorized, if at all, in the case of violent felonies or when there's immediate risk to public safety. See section IV.
Moreover, even if a pursuit is authorized, the rules stipulate that they have to break off the chase if there's a risk to public safety. (This is also stated in the above order.) And as compared to years prior and oh-so-many-famous car chases in California, tolerance for the risks in car chases has plummeted. (If we're being cynical, mostly out of concern for the criminal, not the public; or at least concern regarding the ire of criminal rights advocates whenever a chase results in the death or injury of the suspect.) For example,
> Officers responded to a call Sunday evening of a Tenderloin robbery and auto theft, but were forced to end their pursuit when the suspects began driving the stolen vehicle in an erratic and dangerous manner.
https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/tenderloin-vehicle...
People complain about, e.g., "chilling effects" on legitimate free speech rights stemming from policies designed to restrain unprotected speech. Well, all manner of policies can have "chilling effects", sweeping more broadly in practice than they were intended. Such effects are modulated by various norms. In San Francisco a growing chorus of people (across the political and social spectrum) are complaining about cops failing in an unprecedented manner to investigate, detain, arrest, or otherwise enforce laws as dictated by formal policies (i.e. excluding cases where city policy clearly required abstention), and to the extent it's true (some of it is demonstrably true), part of that is because the political culture in SF causes police to be excessively risk-averse regarding modern reform policies. If you follow seemingly inconspicuously, or your pursuit nominally meets policy but things go sideways, that's your job on the line, and cops enjoy much less deference administratively than in other cities--certainly the DA, but even the Mayor and Police Chief in SF are less tolerant of cops who create controversy, whether or not negligent.) The situation in Chicago might be similar to some extent, especially as of the past couple years.
The new equilibrium might still be preferable, or if not there may be ways to reach a better equilibrium without revisiting sins of the past, but this sub-thread began from you saying that you didn't believe a poster who claimed a police officer deliberately abstained from pursuing a suspect getting away by car. You apparently believed such events are so rare as to be fictitious. But they absolutely do occur, with increasing frequency, and in no small degree driven by changes in formal policy. Maybe the poster is being misleading, but on its face nothing about it seems implausible; quite the contrary.