Ask HN: Quiet quitting in FAANG doesn't work now?
Imagine working in FAANG now and competing with tons of smart leetcoders for projects now or you will be terminated
1/4 to 1/3 of the engineering teams checked out during COVID. They operate in klo mode, keep the lights on.
Leetcoding doesn’t make you an effective hire. Plenty of leetcode geniuses who landed a job but can’t solve problems and either can’t do the work or just don’t want to.
Maybe 1/3rd are still active and faking it and last third are moving things forward.
I left last year, and it was a very political place. Management quality also regressed. One team I worked with were all former IBM employees who came to manage at Amazon. They quiet quit on Day 1.
It is not quitting, you are still doing your job and you still get paid (unless you are fired). Is it different from regular work-to-rule (if you do that as a form of protest) or just doing your job (if you simply don't take unreasonable, out-of-contract requests)?
“Quiet quitting” is a frame implicitly shaming workers for not providing more than the contracted work.
Similarly, “Quiet firing” could be a frame for employers paying employees the contractual amount without additional compensation for any effort above the contracted amount.
In these terms, employers have been “quiet firing” forever.
Note which frame is being repeated and by whom - as an indication of which frame and interests these outlets represent.
(I did not invent the “quiet firing” counter-frame, I just find it to be a great example of framing the issue)
“If you get your opponent to use your frame, no matter what they say, you still win” — also George Lakoff
"Lockdown made Brits lazy and entitled, they will face a rude awakening CAROLE MALONE
There's a new craze sweeping the nation. It's called Quiet Quitting. It's a craze that started on TikTok, the same social media platform that encourages people who aren't disabled to pretend that they are in order to dodge airport queues. Nice, eh?"
Some people said != platform encourages
lest we start describing what HN "encourages"
It's a very BS term that tries to harass people into doing charity for the rich.
Sure people practice a bit when they play the interview game, but being successful in FAANG is pretty much unrelated to solving leetcode problems.
Doing the absolute minimum required not to get fired?
Or not meeting unreasonable expectations? Working unpaid overtime, responding to emails outside working hours, etc.
It's just doing your job. And of course it works anywhere.
The thing that has changed now is a lot more people are pushing out 3 tickets a month than before. But you can't necessarily point to who's slacking off and who's not.
So lot's of Leetcode etc.
Rust is my thing, so imagine struggling with the borrow checker during an interview.
It may not be the best way to choose if a developer is going to be good on the job (is there even a way).
But, I feel I'm a better programmer now than before.