I follow a bunch of artists and labels there, and get notifications when new stuff get published by them. If I find a new artist, I usually look them up on Bandcamp, and follow the label too, looking through whatever other stuff they published.
If I find a really small artist on Bandcamp, I usually look through which Bandcamp users have supported the artist, and look through what else they follow/collected, been finding some gems this way too, but takes a bit more effort.
Bandcamp also has something called "Bandcamp Fridays" (https://daily.bandcamp.com/features/bandcamp-fridays-update) where more of what you pay go to the artists. I usually save up what I want to buy until next Bandcamp Friday and then go on a shopping spree based on my list.
The thing missing for me from bandcamp is the "I just want some music I like" button. It is much more of a curated album listing experience. I would love to be able to make/share some long playlists on Bandcamp.
Another great source is the Bandcamp Weekly with Andrew Jervis. If you're looking for something curated that is a little less effort, this is a great option.
You could say "Spotify's algorithm", but you need to help it. It is more their links between artists that I use, and the general availability of a lot of artists. (Not as many as on YouTube.)
If I have found a lot of great, new music this week, next week's "Discover Weekly" and the albums recommended in "Home" are better.
Most of the music I find is by looking at the tracks I'm already playing: Maybe I only heard one song from an artist, maybe I only ever listened to their old stuff, or maybe I only ever listened to their new stuff. Maybe it's a remix, and the featured artist is the one I like, so I listen to their top songs.
I've learned that whatever one-hit wonder people have -- the song that everyone plays 10 times more often than their second-most popular song -- is often a good choice if you're assessing a musician. But if you like them, it's also likely that your favorite song isn't everyone else's.
I mostly listen to electronic music without vocals, so I can play a lot of random music while I work, and occasionally something sticks out in a good or a bad way.
Last year I spent 65000 minutes listening to music on Spotify.
Sometimes this method doesn't work because maybe the 'average' you're looking for doesn't exist or Spotify hasn't connected the dots. Sometimes a track in the 'seed' can dominate the recommendations so try removing tracks that seem to skew the results or adding more from the opposite genre.
I might call your method “playlist radio”, and I don’t use it as often.
However, judging by how many songs on these recommender radios that I’ve already liked, I think that recommendations are somehow always based on a vector.
Spotify is great for recommendations of licensed content that is new. I rarely feel there is some small or big hit I'm missing in the genres I like, but it is heavily supplanted with the use of SoundCloud for sets and music that will never legally be licensed and on the platform.
https://wmbr.org/cgi-bin/show?id=6785
they post there set lists to "Track-blaster". They have a "listen" button if its within the 2 week archive period.
here is last mondays show: https://track-blaster.com/wmbr/playlist.php?id=47208
Another gem is the music played when the national radios are on strike. This is a special curated playlist just for that occasion (or a technical disaster) and the music is really good.
I once switched on France Culture and there was sick music, thought "great they are on strike" (yes, quite an unusual reaction) and the host was back and said "to those who just joined, we are not on strike, just listening to some nice music"
I may not like everything in a human curated list but I’m exposed to more things that can have sudden jumps from my current localization.
Spotify Discover seems to work pretty well for me.
Yesterday it surfaced an outrun track featuring both guitar and sax solos, which... is pretty on-brand for ethbr0.
Having diverse and varied playlists seems to help? I've had friends complain it doesn't work for them, so I must do something different.
(Doom Flamingo - Domingo's Drive, if anyone's curious https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uH0IUJtUBek )
This is the correct way to make use of the so-called 'algorithm'.
I say 'so-called' because I know the algorithm to be dumb/blind. Pick something obscure on a playlist, you will get tour own recommendations back. iTunes is the same. You are gaming the recommended list correctly.
Other peoples lists are even better (when they are good ie thoughtful, lists).
One good tool that replicates this process a bit is https://radiooooo.com where you can listen to typical playlists from countries and even from a chosen decade (more or less).
I listen to metal, so I'm frequently visiting this page:
Thanks anyway. Perhaps I just to picky. Or I'm an old man stuck in his ways.
Other than that, I try to keep up with what my friends are listening to.
> Every Noise at Once is an ongoing attempt at an algorithmically-generated, readability-adjusted scatter-plot of the musical genre-space, based on data tracked and analyzed for 5,957 genre-shaped distinctions by Spotify as of 2022-09-12. The calibration is fuzzy, but in general down is more organic, up is more mechanical and electric; left is denser and more atmospheric, right is spikier and bouncier.
I tend to visit this site after discovering a new artist I really like to find other adjacent artists and genres.
There's a whole genre of YouTube videos of disembodied hands playing electronic music, titled with the names of the instruments featured in the videos. If you have, say, an Elektron Octatrack, a Roland SH01A, and a Korg Volca Modular, drop those terms in a YouTube search. The quality is very uneven: most of the videos are just people screwing around, but you occasionally come across somebody with an album on Bandcamp, and the recommendations lead to interesting discoveries.
Speedy J and Luke Slater https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVbQrn5BoA4
An other way to discover music is to talk with people from your surroundings that you like the music taste and propose to exchange some music. Make some selections of tracks and send them files transfers, sometimes people will be kind and send you back some music they really enjoy.
And we can just simply start discovering new stuff from the songs we already have by checking the other projects of the artists, the labels that released the songs and have hours to spend exploring music that will really fit our tastes.
The way I find those sites is by searching for an album I know I liked and seeing which sites have posted about it - release dates, reviews, etc. Works the best when you can find sites with a more specific genre though, to cut out some of the extra noise.
Then I just check back in to see what is getting released when, and look it up on whatever streaming service.
Subreddits work occasionally, but it seems like more often than not those are used to post old albums and old songs for free upvotes.
I listen to Discover Weekly every week (I think I've missed 1 week in several years). Every time I like a song, want to hear the rest of the album it's on or want to hear more of that artist, I add that song to a big playlist (currently 906 songs) so I can open that artist's page later. On that artist page I often check out the 'appears on' section to check out albums or playlists with similar music. I treat that album/playlist the same as Discover weekly: If I like a song I add it to the big playlist.
I think this works great, I often discover new artists or songs, all more or less in the same (electronicy) genres though. I've also noticed that I can listen to some albums that are different, but it won't get added to my Discover Weekly, which is exactly how I like it. For example: sometimes I like to listen to the Red Hot Chili Peppers for an afternoon, but I don't feel the need to have similar artists added to my mix of songs.
I don't really use the Daily mixes. Every one of those seems to have the same couple of artist and the mix of artists doen't really changes over time.
And sometimes a friend of mine or some family members send me a link to an album or playlist they like.
eta: Granted. Once I find them on TikTok, I listen to them on Spotify. I just don't really like Spotify's discovery features. I'm not always looking for things that are completely similar to what I've listened to in the past.
Discogs (Genre) Sort by "Hot"
https://www.discogs.com/search/?sort=hot%2Cdesc&style_exact=...
https://www.phonicarecords.com
https://www.junodownload.com/leftfield/
https://hardwax.com Great weekly recap mixes featuring their latest releases on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/c/hardwax_official/videos
Bandcamp search by tag/genre. Discover tracks I like, then click through to see what other tracks supporters have recently purchased - honestly found some of the best music via this method.
I also run a monthly mix series called Dystopian Disco - that's predominately focused on unearthing new house/techno/dark disco releases.
It's like college radio from the 80s, but with the cartoony enhanced powers granted by gamma rays in a horrible accident in New Jersey. Every DJ does their own thing. Station manager Ken claims there's always at least one show on the schedule that anyone can hate, even if they hate different shows.
As bandcamp user, the "others who bought this also checked out that" might be helpful, but I seldomly follow them.
As a music consumer (niche metal) I follow the set of bands and naturally uncover close relatives by supporting acts on live shows etc.
Given my time is very limited, I don't feel a big need to discover even more music. Most of my time already is taken by me practicing, recording, mixing and keeping up with publishing next to $DAYJOB and $FAMILY.
1. https://floatingpoints.bandcamp.com/album/promises 2. https://nalasinephro.bandcamp.com/album/space-18
Lots of times the first comment will be a partial track list or I'll look up the tracklisting on mixesdb.
In the 90s to discover music it was you had to attend shows and crate dig or even call up the record label (long distance number!) and listen to the latest release over POTS.
This turns out this was very effective to not stay in a style or comfort zone bubble. Nowadays I collect vinyl and find new stuff via bargain bin deals and on flea markets. That said, this approaches are probably better suited for people who are not fixated on particular styles.
Discogs.com is a great resource to look around and find new stuff on label level. I'm not affilatednwith them, but use their service for over a decade for the database, and more recently to buy some vinyl I couldn't find locally.
Usually it's one of these: - Spotify's "Discover Weekly" playlist.
- Spotify's "Enhance Playlist" feature applied to my playlists (including the "Liked Songs" playlist).
- Friends (lots of them love music, some of them are musicians).
- Live DJ Sets on YT.
- Music compilation videos on YT.
- Artists I follow on Instagram. Some make music in niche genres and started their movements, which onboard new interesting artists from time to time. I found several cool emerging artists this way, to answer your question.
The library contains ambient, deep, meditative, techno, rhythmic and dub music that we find productive for passive listening, meditation and productivity.
You can find lots of underrated and undiscovered secret talents and music not available on Spotify and other platforms.
The traditional music recommendations algorithms are very limited for deep music discovery as they extensively depend on music history where the best high-quality independent music often times unnoticed by those algorithms where creators have different motivation for music production.
For ambient music, I also make a site (https://flowful.app) which procedurally generates ambient music for you. I have a Discord of people who use it, where theres a section for people to share music. Most of the new ambient stuff I find now is through there.
I like it because I know the recommendations never come from algorithms, but come organically from other music fans. Rock's the overarching thematic focus, but you'll find hip-hop, jazz, and nearly any genre you could think of on there :)
2) contextual discovery - e.g. I like some band and than I discover the previous band of their drummer
3) recommendations from friends, internet radio DJs etc
4) accidentally visiting band's concert
I still find Pandora to be the best for finding new artists, I just create new stations and see what they recommend.
[0] https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLS9h1UWf2LH5VIR-lqJoM...
Mostly https://doyou.world/ and https://www.nts.live/
"Pretty in Pink, by the way, also has the best soundtrack of any movie I’ve ever seen, with many of the songs specifically written or re-recorded for the film. It is one of the most acclaimed musical compilations in modern cinema, and in 2013 was ranked #11 in Rolling Stone’s list of greatest soundtracks."
From: https://moviewise.substack.com/p/a-love-letter-to-pretty-in-...
What's cool is all the 'new' music on them, which are simply B-sides from my favorite groups or unheard tracks from the albums.
I used to find a lot of interesting new music on Facebook, but I've given up on the platform a few years ago, which now actually leaves quite a gap in my ability to discover new music.
Lately, I'm following nodata.tv and exystence.net in my RSS reader, which is somewhat hit and miss, but connects me with a lot of very eclectic stuff. Also, I find the Bandcamp recommendation algorithm at least acceptable, so I discover some new stuff there. And then there's the DJs and producers I follow on Soundcloud.
Also "Right Now" playlist from Ryan Schreiber (Pitchfork's founder) if you're into that style. Try looking for playlists created by music journalists you enjoy.
Algorithmic recommendations never worked for me.
Sample: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Full+Album+band...
No Clean Singing, Angry Metal Guy, r/IndieHeads, NTS Radio, Ghettoblaster, OffShelf
My parter and I also hit up local record stores often and often make them a destination when traveling somewhere new so we get lot of new stuff and listen to them over time.
Still waiting on YTM to migrate the feature.
If you haven’t already, I’d recommend giving their very first “Welcome” EP a listen.
- Filter with compositor, rachmaninoff, mozart...
- I filter with record label in spotify, with very specific and quality like "hamonia mundi", "erato" and others.
- Select orchestra (London Symphony Orchestra, Choir of King's College)
- Select musician (Baremboim, Argerich...)
https://www.prestomusic.com/classical also has good weekly recommendations.
I noticed that some recordings (ie Rachmaninoff's Vespers) are poorly recorded. With amount of dynamics, especially in choir pieces, they are overdubbed. I do not use volume normalization.
It's honestly amazing to read a review about an album of viola and cello free jazz and to be able to listen to it on Spotify and Bandcamp in 30 seconds.
I find new DJs through the BBC Radio 1 Essential Mix, DJ Mag awards, Resident Advisor polls (but I think these have mostly been discontinued), festival or concert lineups, and radio stations hosting on SoundCloud.
I used Spotify for years and found the discovery not very good.
So far I have found incredible bands that I would not even imagine finding otherwise.
What do you mean by this? I discover a lot of music through Spotify.
My mix for discovery usually goes through:
1. Labels that release artists I already like
2. Recommendations from friends
3. Spotify recommendations algos (Discover Weekly, mixes, radio feature, etc.)
4. Music zines/magazines/blogs/critics.
5. Bandcamp recommendations (not so good but worth to check here and there).
Spotify is pretty good to recommend very similar tracks or artists, never had an issue with it so would be keen to hear what's your issue.
You can also tell someone what you like and they’ll have good recommendations.
- Searching songs by their producer
- Spend a lot of time researching music and genres
- Music subreddits
- Looking up songs sampled by other songs
Now: Listening to what Apple Music puts in front of me. I got lazy.
https://www.last.fm/ - Yes, this site still exists and still has somewhat of a community. It is my secondary driver for finding new music these days. I look at what the folks I follow are listening to and use tags to find new artists with commonalities. Been scrobbling on and off for about 15 years. Would have never found a proper Soul Coughing analog if not for this service (MC 900 Ft. Jesus).
While it’s probably taboo to recommend a 4chan board - /mu/ can have excellent content if you look hard enough for it (last.fm , /prod/, /chart/ threads).
Here is a dump of blogs I've checked out for inspiration: http://1000flights.blogspot.com/ | https://nostalgie-de-la-boue.blogspot.com | https://monrakplengthai.blogspot.com/ | https://phyuniwarpyarmusic.blogspot.com | https://neosamzpoke.blogspot.com/ | https://bodegapop.blogspot.com/ | https://foundtapes.blogspot.com/ | https://disorderareyouexperienced.blogspot.com/ | https://norecordshopsleft.blogspot.com/ | http://tapeattack.blogspot.com/ |https://dieordiy2.blogspot.com/ | https://oriental-traditional-music.blogspot.com/ | http://soi48.blogspot.com/ | http://madrotter-treasure-hunt.blogspot.com/ | http://public-embarrassment-blues.blogspot.com/ | https://moroccantapestash.blogspot.com | https://oriental-traditional-music.blogspot.com/