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Agreed. I'm a competitive runner and nobody in that community is showing up to interval workouts with an Apple watch. I don't see this watch changing that, especially when better battery life and tracking (which is all the road/track running segment really cares about) can be had at a fraction of the cost with Garmin or Coros. The ultra/hiking community will run into problems with the 36 hour battery life, especially if they're using the map features.

I really have a hard time seeing who this watch is for.

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I put in an order for one. I currently wear an Apple Watch Series 4 every day, which I use for logging workouts and other health metrics, and as a daily-driver smartwatch for receiving notifications, checking time and weather, etc. This seems like a really worthy upgrade to me - with the parts that interest me in particular being the improved battery life, larger and brighter screen, always-on display, and cellular support (which my current watch doesn't have).

> I really have a hard time seeing who this watch is for.

I would say basically anyone who likes their Apple Watch (and there are a lot of us out there), is comfortable with the size and aesthetic, and has $800 to blow on a smart watch.

Remember will be 60 hours in low power mode, and that seems to only disable things such as always on (which I always disable with hikes as drastically improves battery life and theater mode), and won't auto detect workout, but one can easily just set to hike or what not when starting the workout manually. 60 hours for all the benefits of the watch seems impressive. The 49mm size however will be the bigger issue presumably for most woman and men with small wrists, since the small was already large for that demographic.

I think this is a the first act from apple entering into active lifestyle market for the endurance/outback/mountain and outgoing folks.

It is definitely not for me this year, it does not have the battery life I need during an excursion and there is no possibility of charge on the go (like good old Garmin watches that you can charge while using during an activity).

But in few years it will advance the same way apple watch has advanced :-).

Same with cyclists. Head units from Garmin or Wahoo are far superior but an Apple Watch could be a decent alternative if it at least supported ANT+ to connect a power meter and a range of sensors. Or Strava Live Segments (maybe they do via the Strava App?).

Currently The Apple Watch is a nice casual fitness tracker and the Watch Ultra doesn't change any of that.

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