I have to admit, being anti-woke myself (not American), that this article caught my eye:
https://www.thenation.com/article/society/tech-labor-progres...
Not the kind of person I would expect to be in charge of Signal, TBH.
Actually, to me, it seems fairly consistent with Signal’s mission.
She appears to be fairly qualified (including a mindset, as she is in a leadership role) and I wish her well.
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_The left must vie for control over the algorithms, data, and infrastructure that shape our lives._
I don't think these two staments match very well. Caesar's wife and all that....
Edit: BTW, I wish her well too. I don't think that she's going to hinder Signal's crypto just serve to the left's interests, but she hasn't a clean record.
She is quite left-leaning, though, so I could see why some folks would find her ideology grating. I believe that a fair number of right-leaning people also use Signal.
She has proved she can be a pain in the ass. These type of people are rare and they required.
Most outside big tech who can do something are already bought and paid for by big tech.
There are very few who have the combo of the right values, the ambition, the technical pedigree, the financial independence and are well networked.
Which is why we have an ever expanding exploitative shit mountain range of tech being produced every year.
That it took this long for Big Tech companies to take fascists seriously enough to remove some of them from social media should serve as a wake-up call: Elites tend to realize the dangers of fascism only when violent flash points hit close to home. It is workers and historically marginalized people who are—and always have been—the anti-fascist front line. If progressives are to ensure that technical systems aren’t yoked to a far-right agenda, they’ll need to stop relying on legislative maneuvering or entreaties to corporations and, together with these frontline actors globally, vie for control over the infrastructure itself.
I read this as "I believe that Democrats have a grip on Big Tech" (that's the point of many trumpists, she seems to agree with them). But instead of presenting it as a bad thing, she thinks that it's not enough and the control over the infraestructure should be stronger.
She’s not “parroting republicans” by saying tech is largely operated by people who are elite and (ostensibly) liberal. As far as I know, this isn’t controversial amongst liberals - just a projection made up by Fox News anchors and talk radio hosts as they shout “hypocrisy!” while being funded by the likes of Rupert Murdoch.
Didn’t you read the part about fascism? She’s talking about republicans lol, you realize that right?
I don't watch Fox News, just read comments on american dominated forums like this one and reddit (the regular subrredits like r/news or r/europe, not obscure ones). And I my impression is that the average left-leaning user does not openly acknowledge that there is a leftist bias on Twitter or Youtube. On the contrary.
> Didn’t you read the part about fascism? She’s talking about republicans lol, you realize that right?
I don't understand what you mean, I'm sorry, but I have read the whole thing.
Collecting your sample from the internet is collecting an inherently biased sample though - please don’t do that. Or if you do, don’t bring it into a discussion like it’s somehow useful information and not noise.
there is more depth to Americans than sensationalist culture war click bait would have you believe.
Reading random guys in the internet it's not the only thing I do and I don't think I implied that. It was just a data point to support that the notion that it's not widely accepted that leftist bias is present in some tech platforms.
I have the impression you are trying to "defeat" without the need of presenting any argument just because I'm not american. If you want some kind of victory it's yours. If you have convincing arguments I will be delighted to hear them. Still waiting, though.
For what it’s worth, I respect that American internet culture is perhaps inescapable for non-Americans and am not refusing discussion based on that. It’s mostly about how you didn’t know she was referring to Trump supporters as fascist (a concept I imagine you would disagree with, based on your statements so far), but well - a good deal of Trump supporters became radicalized fascists resulting in the events of Jan. 6.
Not to mention the bulk of the Republican Party incorrectly believes that the 2020 election was stolen.
Now we're making progress.
Yes, I guessed she was referring to Trump supporters. And that's exactly the problem I have with the article. It's hard to disagree with someone who argues for formulae to fight fascism, until you realize that term means something different for every person, specially if she's in the left.
How do you know she doesn't apply that label to every Trump supporter and not just the kind of one who stormed the Capitol?
And after reading that article. Are you sure she would be ok with the fact that trumpists were using Signal to communicate on Jan 6 and wouldn't try to undermine its usage among them? Sure, there are multiple interpretations of her words, but certainly it raises a doubt. And that and no other was my point.
> Not to mention the bulk of the Republican Party incorrectly believes that the 2020 election was stolen.
Come on. You don't sincerely believe that.
edit: If you don’t know how contentious this issue is (for both sides), it’s perhaps worth realizing that Americans have been fighting a lot lately, to the point of exhaustion. This is well past the point of “healthy public debate” and a lot closer to “2+2=5”. So if you see anyone else like me who just isn’t interested, try to remember that they have already had the same argument a hundred times with others, maybe even loved ones.
Edit 2: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/at-least-120-republican...
You’re simply way too overconfident. A sibling comment just posted an article and your response was your personal pet theory conspiracy about hunter bidens laptop??
Please, just stop. You clearly have a set agenda and just want to try to “catch hypocrites in the act with FACTS and LOGIC”. This isn’t YouTube, the standard of discourse is higher than that here.
In fact there were gratuitous personal swipes in literally every comment you posted to this thread. Please make your substantive posts without any of that in the future.
If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/poll-finds-65-of-republica...
What party members believe, I can only infer from what they say. But if anything, it seems even more extreme.
You just lost, plain as day. Your “rebuttal” is pure conjecture, clearly informed solely by your biases and lack of knowledge.
But no, it’s _totally_ Hunter Biden’s laptop (eyes roll harder).
Take it as you want.
Have a nice day.
Again, I suggest you stop being so overconfident about subjects you’re uninformed on.
> I'm consider myself well versed on american politics, and I'm not picking sides. Believe or not I read more about american politics every day than about politics of my own country.
If you aren’t watching (and I’m presuming reading) Fox News , one of the most large republican primary source of American Politics , what exactly are you watching/reading to be well versed?
Furthing the myth that fascism only exist on the far right is also a dangerous position. It ignores the existence of authoritarians and fascist tactics and desired outcomes all along the political spectrum.
I'd have felt much better had she been a liberal rather than a progressive.
What does anti-woke mean? Also not American.