You'd be surprised to know that there are some other stuff holding proteins that's not meat. Like fish or chickpeas, or lentils, or beans, or seeds, or buts, or broccoli...
I also dont really understand the full appeal as mono-cropping has devastated forests and animal species. And those harvesting machines kill many animals in the fields.
But well, I worship Darwin and let the vegans dying from malnutrition.
Latest story is that mother getting life sentence after killing her baby with vegan diet.
Please don’t be snarky.¹ Known athletes trivially disprove that claim.² ³
¹ https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
² https://www.mensjournal.com/sports/nate-diaz-and-other-vegan...
³ https://www.livekindly.com/vegan-athletes-swear-by-plants/
No need to cherry pick far right elements of the bell curve. For centuries diet poor in meat is associated with bad health, shorter life and multiple specific diseases. This topic is widely reported on old littérature from 17th 18th and 19th centuries. 0 meat diet is malnutrition whatever the artifice you use to hide it.
Which cuts both ways. Neither of us know when they will die.
> No need to cherry pick far right elements of the bell curve.
Your comment specifically mentioned Darwin and dying. Most people will take that as quip on the “survival of the fittest” phrase, so I showed you examples of the fittest.
> all the chemical they need to add into their daily diet
Even if that were true, it does not support your point. Your claim was of malnutrition, you’re now shifting the goalpost to a value judgement on how that nutrition is ingested. All food is made up of chemical substances¹.
> This topic is widely reported on old littérature from 17th 18th and 19th centuries.
After asking for concrete data, your rebuttal is to offer none? I know we’re amidst a replication crisis², but a general hand wave to unspecified publications which don’t take into account the last century of science doesn’t advance the conversation.
On the whole, I've met more unhealthy vegans and vegetarians than healthy ones.
How do you know the diet of everyone you meet? How are you assessing the health of your acquaintances?
> People have a hard enough time
Are things not worth doing because they are difficult? Exercising is pretty inconvenient - doesn't mean we should give up on it.
Oh, they'll tell you, together with their pronouns.
> Are things not worth doing because they are difficult? Exercising is pretty inconvenient - doesn't mean we should give up on it. I've been vegan for long periods of time and I've always tended to veganism because of the science. When my symptoms started becoming intolerable and doctors said it was all "stress" I switched to carnivore.
I tried both sides and dieting while eating a high carb, low fat diet is insanely hard: you're hungry all the time and you keep snacking. You need to calorie count everything.
Dieting on a carnivore diet is easy. You'll get full by eating fat, you won't be able to put more in you. No calories counting needed, you're never hungry.