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Comment by colejohnson66 | Hacker News Reader

KiwiFarms does more than just harass Keffals. Whether you agree with her views or not is irrelevant. At least 3 suicides have been caused by them.

After the swatting incident, Keffals stayed in a hotel one night. KiwiFarms were able to track her down in a matter of hours. With nothing more than a photo on her Discord that happened to include the hotel bedsheets.

Their vitriol isn’t something that you can just “grow thicker skin” against. These people will harass you until the day you die, and never give up.

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So they will stop the harassment by DDoSing them?

I’m not defending them and what they’re doing to Keffals is beyond wrong but what does this hope to accomplish?

Dragging cloudflare through the mud might seem like a good idea until someone else whips up the twitter mob to get them to drop <random cause you support> so they can be DDoSed off the interwebs.

Next time they pressure cloudflare they have a playbook to go off of to get what they want.

Maybe you should actually read cloud flares blog post. Their decision to remove KF has nothing to do with the community pressuring them to remove KF, and everything to do with many credible, illegal threats of violence towards real people over the past two weeks since Cloudflare’s last blogpost on this situation.

It’s not some “cause”, it’s the base of operations for an online harassment group.

And what playbook? Oh so Cloudflare decided to kick one site off now they “have to” kick everyone else off? Why? Are they legally obligated to?

Cloudflare can decide to do whatever it wants on a case by case basis, it’s a business not a court. Precedents be damned.

> I’m not defending them and what they’re doing to Keffals is beyond wrong but what does this hope to accomplish?

The whole gay cakes debacle resulted in jurisprudence that supports the right of businesses to refuse service on the grounds of "a genuine objection in conscience".

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