Is Tesla Autopilot Killing Motorcycle Riders?

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He glosses over the part where tesla autopilot shuts itself down just before impact. It doesnt matter that much but it's an interesting point I didn't know.

As a rider, I'm not really too worried about tesla autopilot, mostly because I don't do much freeway riding and I'm probably not the safest rider to begin with. Plus there are plenty of normal drivers that make questionable maneuvers solely because they don't see bikes. In fact, even as a rider myself, at night I often have trouble distinguishing a motorcycle from a car with one light out.

AP safety stats include crashes where the system was active within the previous x seconds - I think x is something like 10 or 30. Plenty of time for a human to become responsible.

> Tesla‘s vehicles have been found to shut off the advanced driver-assistance system, Autopilot, around one second before impact, according to the regulators.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/06/15/tesla-a...

Sure, because it’s given up. Those crashes are included in the safety stats.

How do you know it when you can't independently verify it?

I'm not arguing that it's to game the stats, but it's still an interesting point I didn't know. I wonder what the reasoning behind the shut off is, and why 1 second (or whatever it is). Why not 2 or 3, or a quarter second?

My guess is the path planner hits an impossible scenario (“we don’t have enough brake authority to stop in time”) and that triggers the disengagement. Doubtful there’s a DISENGAGE_SECONDS_BEFORE_CRASH constant somewhere.

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