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I find the whole thing perversely enjoyable. If you want to test someone, allow them to succeed. Give them power. When I was young, the left was the underdog, and they sure sounded like a nice bunch of people ... kindness, forgiving, can't we all get along? Free speech, our country was founded on it!

The wheel turns and now they are in power. Suddenly it is cancel, no contact, punch Nazis, hang the traitors, and so on. You don't get to speak anymore, then sneering about "freeze peach." Laughing about the misfortunes of others. Give people a little taste of authority and, well, masks off.

I am reminded of that Flannery O'Connor story, and I guess some people would be decent were someone there to shoot them every minute of their lives.

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It's telling to see this comment suppressed with not even a hint as to why. Feminism has changed drastically over the years. The gay movement has been taken over by toxic individuals. Occupy Wall St was taken over. Antifa shootings, BLM riots, lockdowns, get vaccinated or lose your job, and the redefinition of words, all occurred recently. Biden's rhetoric re Trump voters, 80+ million people, is very interesting. We're going to suppress it all with no discussion.

> Feminism has changed drastically over the years

This is so true. All your comment is true, but, the mention of feminism really caught my eye.

So, I’m a man. But once in a blue moon I’ll visit ovarit. It’s a reddit clone but for gender critical feminists. To me, the women there seem perfectly reasonable. I genuinely like seeing what they post there and it makes sense to me. They believe women are adult female humans, they believe men and women should have the same rights and they believe societal roles should not be mandatory. This to me feels intuitively correct and, well, normal.

However, these women are considered monsters in many places. Mainstream platforms ban them. They are disparaged as TERFs and called hateful. And I genuinely don’t understand how it got to this point. How did feminism mutate from “equal rights” and “don’t force societal expectations on me” to … whatever the hell we have today?

Same here, I'm also quite a fan of Ovarit. It's really opened my eyes to a lot of the truly awful issues affecting women and girls, and it's refreshing to see the commenters there speak so plainly and directly about this. Also I love their humour, much of it is hilariously scathing.

To be honest, I think Reddit did them a favour kicking them off the platform. Though it was unfair, and the Reddit admins were taking the side of delusion and foolishness, it's worked out really well for the radfems who had to leave. Now they have their own women-centred space, away from the misogynists who want to keep them down.

I don't find it enjoyable at al, but I would say it is ironic that back then it was liberals preaching for free speech and conservatives wanting to censor all things (television, video-games, porn, etc). Power seems to quickly change one's ideals.

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