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Anyone tried Phoenix Liveview recently? Seems like a solution to opt out of this kind of situation entirely.. I'll be exploring the framework

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liveview still uses JS, its just rather out of the way in what it does

edit: livewire in laravel land does a similar approach - tho not as fast currently, leverages alpine.js under the hood

While we use JS and websockets, even with js disabled or curling the page will send all the HTML. So the initial render is strictly a regular html page with all your expected content.

right, i get that - and liveview is a sick piece of kit, so congrats. just saying that for what most would use it for - it is still using some JS

i suppose i should have prefaced with liveview uses JS...if you intend to use JS or dynamically update anything

edit: much like the SSR being described

hate replying to something i already did - but i also never said liveview required JS, just...it still uses it if there. Liveview is a really slick answer to this whole thing, and I recommend readers of the thread to check out. And now I have nothing.

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