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The Plan to Blow Up the Internet, Ostensibly to Protect Kids Online (AB 2273)

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California ruins everything. The problem is they're exporting the people that came up with the ideas to other states.

Well they did loose a vote in the electoral college. First population decline in history.

Despite unheard of voter turnouts.

California's population did not decline, per the US census. It's share of the overall US population slightly declined (ie grew more slowly than eg Texas). So Cal lost one congressional seat in the new apportionment, and thus one vote in the electoral college as you say.

The saying is "As California goes, so goes the nation" because California is slightly ahead in the future and deals with issues first, compared to say, Kansas.

The future is here, it's just not evenly distributed" -- William Gibson

I did a fair amount of road trips around America to have a look around and found this to be true. For example, many small towns and even larger ones like Wichita Kansas feel like they're still in the 1970's. This is probably not as true as when I did my trips in the 2000's, because the internet has spread the future around more evenly.

I live in Kansas. We're fine, thank you. I pay a 1/10 of the taxes and I don't have the government invading every single aspect of my personal business.

Kansas is a fine state. A little behind the times when I was there in 2004, but I'm sure it's caught up by now.

Has anyone ever told you that your attitude toward other states comes across as arrogance?

California has 44 million people and is the 6th largest economy in the world. The 9 counties in the Bay Area where I live have a larger GDP than most countries, a little bigger than Saudi Arabia. Silicon Valley is home to cutting edge technology companies that have changed the world so much that people want to rein in "Big Tech." When Vladimir Putin complains about American cultural hegemony he's talking about California. Are you saying California and Kansas are the same? What I said was that some parts of America are more futuristic than others, which is obvious to anyone who has travelled around America. There are other parts of the country which are on the cutting edge such as Seattle, Portland, Chicago, etc... I suspect you haven't been to Kansas. To me it felt like going back in time, but that's subjective. It's not a criticism. There's nothing wrong with it. I like Kansas. I said that. Go to Wichita. Go to Fargo. Go to Paris Texas. Tell me how I'm wrong. I've done the road trips because I wanted to see for myself what the rest of the country was like. Jackson Mississippi currently doesn't have a working water supply. Downtown Flint Michigan is all boarded up. What kind of attitude should I have?

Edit: I'd say the city that is most improved as far as moving into the future is Salt Lake City. I was there in 2004 and then 2020. There's been a remarkable transformation, which I guess is understandable because the Mormon Church has 100 Billion dollars, and is the richest religious organization, right behind the Catholic Church.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wealthiest_religious_o...

>Jackson Mississippi currently doesn't have a working water supply. Downtown Flint Michigan is all boarded up. What kind of attitude should I have?

You should take a tour around San Francisco.

I have and parts of it are a hellscape due to a local political system that is paralyzed by this idea that we can't forcibly lock up and treat the mentally ill. I wonder if it's just a matter of having so many, but I bet if a person was ranting and raving with no pants on in downtown Wichita they would be locked up. I am not blind to the problems in California. All I'm trying to say is that California is different from other states, some ways better, some ways worse, and speaking about California as different is not arrogant. I understand that it comes off that way if all I did was go on about how great it is. I'm not. California has big problems. Problems that may be coming to your state soon.

Looks like 9.72% vs 9.34% at least from what I can quickly find on Google. https://wallethub.com/edu/states-with-highest-lowest-tax-bur...

See also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32666995 (15 hours ago) from the same author

The internet's capacity to move large segments of data quickly around the world is the lifeline that makes globalization possible.

Remove that and the dream of global markets have come to an end.

I’m sure there’s a way I can generate a token for each session that can be looked up to confirm my whether I’m a child.

A similar effort is underway in the uk.

Pretty wild that this is finding traction at all. Damn pay to play political systems…

The California law is a copy of the UK Age Appropriate Design Code, which took effect two years ago and is different from the Safety Code. Take from that a benchmark of whether that will blow up the internet.

I meant the Online Safety Bill.

This is a use case for crypto: seamless first or third-party attestation of age without sharing additional data.

It's still a stupid law, but we have the technology to make it work.

I do love the irony that these decentralized systems often end up with the problems they were trying to solve. A trusted third party is the opposite of a decentralized system, and this service could be provided by any FAANG.

Posts in three years: my crypto wallet got hacked and my Proof of Age coins have been stolen, now the government is forcing me to attend kindergarten and my wife was arrested for child abuse.

And my 8 year old son is a money-mule with a bank account in Switzerland worth 8 million dollars...and has a driving license for trucks. ;)

The term crypto until recently referred to cryptography, not cryptocurrencies. Cryptography is quite useful for Digital attestation, and Privacy.

However I'm not a fan of the concept of Internet License, maybe it's better to not give the kids the car if you don't want them to use it.

While I wholeheartedly agree that crypto should remain cryptography, it is a sad state of affairs that we seem to receive far more posts about cryptocurrency.

Yeah, government mandated third party rootkits and bannijg of ownership for all. Sounds great.

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