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Chloe Sagal seems to have had mental health issues - if not Kiwifarms then it would have been something else that trigged her suicide.

It really baffles me when people are targeted by trolls - trolls have been around since the days of Fidonet and BBS - without strict moderation it is a wild west.

Also the solution seems kind of obvious to me - just disconnect yourself - delete social media , curate your feeds and stop posting about your real life on twitter , your job or where you live and find another avenue not twitter to engage with.

4chan, kiwifarms - another site will just pop up to cater for trolls.

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> Chloe Sagal seems to have had mental health issues - if not Kiwifarms then it would have been something else that trigged her suicide.

Harassment is associated with suicidality.[1][2]

> Also the solution seems kind of obvious to me - just disconnect yourself - delete social media , curate your feeds and stop posting about your real life on twitter , your job or where you live and find another avenue not twitter to engage with.

This was prompted by the harassment of a professional Twitch streamer if I understood right. Just delete your career.

[1] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34968122/

[2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4808508/

If that is your chosen way to make money then you need to consider it to be be part of the job just like the possibility of getting shot at when you join the police or armed forces - a actor or popstar with stalkers.

> Chloe Sagal seems to have had mental health issues - if not Kiwifarms then it would have been something else that trigged her suicide.

That's a super fucked thing for you to armchair doctor.

If you look at what really happened saying "Kiwi Farms killed her" isn't exactly fair.

- The thread about her didn't have a post for 6 months before she killed herself

- Facebook locked her profile when she posted about suicide. Why is Kiwi Farms to blame for this?

- She was thrown out where she was living a few days prior because the people she was living with decided they could no longer take care of her

- She had severe mental health issues unrelated to her being harassed

- She threatened to kill herself after that and was taken into custody, spent 2 days in triage at a mental health facility but was never properly hospitalized and left

- She cited homelessness and mental health problems as reason for the suicide

https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2018/06/woman_who_set_se...

What are you doing man.

It seems for a number of people, online social media is the only viable, but paradoxically abusive outlet for social connections.

There are safe avenues on the internet but you won't get as much attention or likes but then I am a boomer and never got this oversharing on places like TikTok.

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