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Comment by wil421 | Hacker News Reader

Like the self driving revolution? Or the bitcoin/blockchain revolution?

Personally, I’m not even getting out my popcorn yet.

Bitcoin / Blockchain doesn't have any intrinsic value other than to those who believe in it. Self driving cars (Level 4-5) are not available to the public and is still in development. This stuff is real, produces some incredible results, available to the public and advancing at a rapid rate.

The output of these models seems really impressive, but for my money the notion that it has value is undermined by the way its trainers keep "proprietary" data that is likely to be in violation of image usage rights at a large scale. What is the true value of something that can only be had at the other end of misbegotten extraction/exploitation? It seems like a similar trade-off to the one that web3 proponents are asking us to make. The apparent end-game is that we'll kill off all the true value creators - the working artists responsible for the source data - and all we'll be left with is an artifact of their works.

No, real artists will just become artisans, like any producers of hand made goods

Real people are creating real things with this tech right now. Beyond that, people are enthusiastically building on this technology to create higher level tools. This will only be able to go so far with the stable diffusion model, but the ceiling is still very high with what we already have, and given the pace of model progress we can realistically expect the next 10 years or so to be absolutely transformative for art, and probably after that writing and music.

Fair position given the failure of crypto to live up to the revolutionary hype.

This is clearly different. The value has been demonstrated - and it has clear implications for a lot of jobs.

Very different. This stuff is genuinely useful already, and is getting more effective every day.

Self driving cars are on the road. Any two people on Earth are able to trustlessly transmit value between them using Bitcoin. You seem cynical.

Google still can't reliably figure out that an email from jpm0r4ncha$e telling me how much money I've won is spam. Once they nail that down, then maybe I'll step inside one of their self driving cars. Until then, I'll laugh at the video where the Tesla flattens a child-sized mannequin.

Any two wallet addresses are able to. That doesn’t mean the people are. By abstracting the actual process of getting and using the Bitcoin on both ends you’ve lost all actual real world detail.

…and they can still lose it all to typos or fees permanently.

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