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> Eventually such systems are rejected by their subjects and collapse, either totally or into anarcho-tyranny.

Are there any actual examples of this happening? The link doesn't cite any.

Anarchy-tyranny in 1980s New York (see “Context and Background”) led to this famous act of vigilantism and subsequent acquittal via what was essentially jury nullification:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_New_York_City_Subway_shoo...

Recalling a DA is firm rejection of his vision for a more-permissive justice system:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chesa-boudin-san-francisco-da-r...

In terms of total collapse, see Venezuela (“Public Opinion” subsection highlights ineffective courts and weak rulings):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Venezuela

Pretty thin evidence to jump on a white supremacist’s pet theory.

The state of law and order in Venezuela is thin evidence? How many countries’ justice systems would need to collapse to convince you of this concept’s validity?

The “anarcho-tyranny” idea is orthogonal to Francis’s other and later views, and has become a mainstay topic in mainstream conservatism. Here it used in a Newsweek article by Hispanic conservative writer Pedro Gonzalez:

https://www.newsweek.com/president-bidens-anarcho-tyranny-op...

> The state of law and order in Venezuela is thin evidence?

It’s evidence of something, but not a too-high bar of criminal conviction.

> has become a mainstay topic in mainstream conservatism

This says bad things about modern mainstream conservatism, not good things about Francis.

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