I wonder how much of a push this will really be?
For the vast majority of people even vanilla gigabit is of limited benefit... that's on the edge of what a consumer SSD is writing at.
For the vast majority of people even vanilla gigabit is of limited benefit... that's on the edge of what a consumer SSD is writing at.
Families can have multiple kids taking online classes while both parents are also working remotely. Many families have multiple devices per person that can be streaming, downloading, OR UPLOADING (commonly the aspect shortchanged in residential Internet) which, at times, can easily saturate a 1Gb connection.
We always need to advance because others are too, and services demand greater speeds in returb. It's a bit of a race, but no need to claim it's useless. We can do things now that were unthinkable before due to such advances.
My 37mbps can do that for 2 people constantly working from home and most of the time on meetings.
For future use, and businesses it is nice to see speeds above 1Gbps being rolled out. For now though, promising 25Gbps to residential is easy marketing. The ISPs knows that it will barely be used.
The only thing that can saturate 1 Gb in practice in my experience are large downloads.
Video conferencing, streaming etc. uses well below 100 Mbps (even 4k Netflix seems to be 25 Mbit/s). You'd need dozens of such applications running at the same time to come even close to saturating Gbit.
This may change over time, but right now, there is very little need for going beyond 1 Gbps for households. And honestly, I think the change will take a long while, because 4k is still not ubiquitous, anything higher than that isn't much of a thing, and even the next step after 4k (assuming it needs 4x the bandwidth) will still be easily handled by a Gbit line even for large households.
A 100 GB game download taking 14 minutes with a saturated line is not going to be a reason for most people to pay for faster hardware all along the path (router, cabling, NICs, ...).
Netflix's help page says 4K uses "up to" 7GB/hour, or a little less than 16Mbps:
I was trying more to make the point that folks were giving arbitrary examples like SSD speeds when there are other kinds of usage that have other limits or could potentially change with time.
If residential speeds only target the "average" case, that'll artificially slow advancement. Many places outside the US have much faster speeds than are available here and we should not invent reasons to slow the shift to faster access. At least it shifts the needle a little and puts additional pressure on the lazy ISPs that still offer 90s-era ADSL speeds.
That is PCIe 3.0. For example the Samsung PCIe 4.0 990 PRO just released: sequential read 7.45GB/s and write 6.9GB/s — https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/08/samsung-announces-99...
a consumer SSD will have about 50k iops at that 300-500megabyte/s . The access pattern will not practically matter at all until you saturate that or get close. The drive is effectively constant time until you hit the limits of the interface, or at least get somewhere near it. A consumer will never get near it.
So they can expect, and consistent testing shows, they will get 300-500 megabytes/s in real world conditions, and even harsh conditions.
I actually have no idea why you don't just say "yeah, i was wrong" and move on. It's clear you are wrong about this - there is no data to support what you are saying. It's also totally and completely orthogonal to a more rasonable argument - they don't care about the speed anyway.
IE arguing they don't have equipment that can saturate 1gbps is silly - they clearly do. arguing they wouldn't care either way because the speed difference doesn't matter to them is more reasonable.
2. Can confirm these writing speeds
Which was pretty awesome, but I'm not often pushing that sort of bandwidth.
The counter argument being that without it being a commodity, we don't know what might be invented if it were. We could miss out on, or delay lots of really amazing innovations.
Sometimes games have assets that compress really well, and then I end up downloading at 400mbps and maxing out my SSD writing.
I'm just fine with my 300 mbps connection. Even when it drops to 20 mbps occasionally it's not the worst experience.
I'm not sure what it is that is different about me than my peers.
It wasn't all that long ago (~10 years) when the company I worked for had only 200Mbit to the internet, and that supported ~300 people pretty comfortably.
The random consumer ssd reads/writes as 300-600megabytes/second, easily. That's 3-5gbps, not 1gbps.
A reasonable 7200rpm spinning disk can easily saturate 1gbps.
Most home grade nas RAID arrays can saturate 10gbps. (obviously not 2 spinning disk mirror ones :P)
That being said, downloading from Steam is incredibly different with a gigabit bandwidth.