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This is definitely not the case.

Example: a .1% increase in shadow over Dolores Park in SF almost stopped a new 19 unit development - https://twitter.com/sam_d_1995/status/1415839145386196993/ph...

It was approved years later after adjustments - https://sfyimby.com/2022/04/supervisors-approve-shortened-pl...

Granted...this particular situation was unique as the development was market-rate units, not low-income, in a communal living layout. There were other concerns on part of neighbors (some real, some silly, and others just simply obstructive). This, along with CEQA in California have been constantly used by existing members of a town/city/neighborhood/etc to reduce additional development of any kind, not just low-income.

This is at a point where NIMBY isn't even the only acronym anymore, BANANAs is the new one the kids use these days - Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anything.

Some more links - - https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/06/how-san-fr... - ugh i know, the Atlantic, but its good - https://missionlocal.org/2021/07/developments-in-development... - https://www.ocregister.com/2022/03/16/berkeley-case-proves-c...

Thanks for introducing a new (to me) term, i.e BANANAS. Upon searching i discovered a few others:

NIABY: Opposition to certain developments as inappropriate anywhere in the world is characterised by the acronym NIABY ("Not In Anyone's Backyard"). The building of nuclear power plants, for example, is often subject to NIABY concerns.

NAMBI: ("Not Against My Business or Industry") is used as a label for any business concern that expresses umbrage with actions or policy that threaten that business, whereby they are believed to be complaining about the principle of the action or policy only for their interests alone and not for all similar business concerns who would equally suffer from the actions or policies.

BANANA: is an acronym for "Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anything" (or "Anyone").The term is most often used to criticize the ongoing opposition of certain advocacy groups to land development. The apparent opposition of some activists to every instance of proposed development suggests that they seek a complete absence of new growth.

NOPE: (Not On Planet Earth)To leave an uncomfortable situation, usually quickly.

LULU: Locally Unwanted/Undesirable Land Use planning.

NOTE: Not Over There Either (meaning is same NIMBY)

hah! wow, i had no idea about the others

thanks for digging

SF real estate is just bitcoin HODLing with real life homeless camp attached. The entire property value is propped up by artificially voted on rules greatly raising the mining difficulty to entrants and it's getting exponentially more difficult with time.

Banning new housing is nothing compared to NYC where they build ghost apartments and don't let anyone move in.

The funny thing is we would all love to have more shadows. All American cities need more shade.

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