> Waymo and others using LiDAR placed the wrong bet and now have nothing to show for it.

Waymo launched their commercial robo-taxi service in 2017. It’s still running today. Open to the public [1].

Meanwhile, Tesla is phasing out their FSD program. Beta-testers, 98 safety score, $15K cost, whatever, current Tesla owners are pissed off.

FSD is a sinking ship, just like the Tesla/Elon brand. They used to be cool.

[1] https://www.azcentral.com/story/money/business/tech/2017/04/...

I hope you’re not biased since you work for Tesla’s autopilot BU. Anyway I’m no expert and I’m open to learn something. With pseudo-LiDAR do you mean photogrammetry? Following your input I may say the best approach could be then to integrate both image and LiDAR technologies to create the most trustable 3d scan. Since LiDAR measures space and distance, it can correct the other photography sensors which could be prone to some errors. I understand the cost side of scale manufacturing but you cannot cut cost in this case, the risk of fatal injuries it’s too big. Also I feel Elon decided ‘dogmatically’ to avoid LiDARs and that’s why this is the only road you are considering…

You work on autopilot at Tesla. You are _the_ demonstration that Tesla's camera based approach is insufficient, has awful deficiencies and is a dangerous product. I wouldn't be saying much if I were you.

Except, you know, in parts of the world that are not sunny California. Your camera will mean nothing in the Nordics/Canada with snow/slush/dirt on the road, and the sun shining straight at you.

But sure, do tell me how you're going to ignore the laws of physics and see a road sign, a kid, or a deer when your camera is blind.

Waymo hasn't killed anyone yet. I think that is probably the most important thing to show.

Well, except not running over mannequins of kids. [1] You know, the simple stuff.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aMWERzT7SQ