The Low Energy Trap
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The low energy, energy efficiency drive isn't a trap isn't about using less energy, it's about wasting less energy, and sourcing energy in a sustainable way that doesn't render the planet uninhabitable.
Why heat a room with your 100W light bulb when you get more light from a 7W LED alternative?
We absolutely can use more energy, but we haven't figured out how to scale out sustainable generation and storage. Right now, dumping fossil fuels is important to accomplish that second goal. Wasting less is an important part of that.
There is no trap, we're just not there yet.
> What does having a lot more energy let us do? For starters we can avoid the worst of the climate crisis by aggressively shifting to electrification of transportation, heating and cooling, production and so forth.
Electrification means a decrease in overall energy usage. No increase in energy production required.
Take for instance - habitat destruction due to increasing destruction of forests for farmland. I had once calculated that in an energy unconstrained world, with a few thousand sky-scraper farms, you could literally feed the whole world and let farmland return to wilderness (boosting oxygen, green cover, increasing C02 capture etc). Of course this has security implications but then the trigger for most conflict is also typically in-equality - which again you can double-click down to energy.
Similarly, in an energy unconstrained world, most pollution can be tackled with closed-cycle recycling processes. The main reason re-cycling doesn't happen is due to the energy cost of producing complex technologies to sort waste or filter chemicals out of waste-water etc.
This is why it is critical for us to figure out ways to unlock & expand energy generation capabilities at scale that minimize or eliminate collateral damage. Efficiency will help but is not the game changer.
The main reason it doesn't happen is externalities.
There's all sorts of horrible things that are re-used and recycled by industry in expensive and complicated ways because if they didn't they'd need to buy more of it and they can do basic sums.
The cost of energy can't be the limit because we actively subsidize that.
The ones they don't recycle are generally because they've figured out a way to make someone else bear the cost instead.
I mean we can't. Shipping water is _hugely_ expensive. Assuming that we make electricity for free, the amount of water needed to irrigate the bit between the Rockies and Appalachians is huge. Literally millions of tons of water a minute.
All of that energy could be used to do something more useful.
Especially as we can do a few things to keep water about longer that helps stops flooding and keep ground water higher.
Yes, we need more power. Yes nuclear is the answer. However the reason that we didn't build them is because it was expensive, and without government incentives they don't get built.
I don't understand how people can look at big tobacco, big sugar, big oil all paying for fake science between the 1940s to today and then think "Yes, but coal barons are the one group of people ethical enough to not spread fud about their main competitor".
tl;dr blame your hippie parents
No, because there's been a concerted move against nuclear from several actors (petroleum industry, greenpeace and related organizations) which made us not invest in Nuclear for 50 years. It's not for the lack of means to build to it. China is building hundreds of reactors in the past few years while the US enjoys power cuts.
Nonsense! All we need to do, is use huge lasers to evaporate gigatonnes of ocean water. It will blow inland, and rain will take care of the rest!
Easy peasy.
The TEs for car motors and gas turbine electricity generation are roughly the same (0.4). So the electric motor has to have an efficiency of 1 (read 0 losses) to not be less efficient overall.
So, no, just electrifying is not more efficient. We need a sustainable, renewable energy source like solar.
Regardless your original thesis is also wrong, since a gasoline engine is 20-40% efficient and a combined cycle gas turbine is 50-60%+ efficient.
If you measure by carbon emissions, it's even more stark. A gasoline car emits more than twice as much carbon as an electric car running on natgas generated electricity.
for heating heat pumps have it's average yearly efficiency about 300-500% (depending on climate) so when we use the same fuel to just make energy at with that 40% you mentioned, we end up with overall efficiency well over 100%
so in both cases it's better to burn the same fuel to create electricity than to use it directly
There's no law of nature that says that if we run out of oil, we will find an alternative energy source, rather that just going back to a different type of civilization with a much lower energy usage where most of the economy is just food production.
Sometimes I wonder if all the decarbonization tales are just story we like to tell ourselves to pretend we are in control, rather than just becoming much poorer because oil is running out and there's nothing we can do about it.
On the other hand, if we want to go really dirty, I guess there's always coal, but many countries only have low quality reserves.
But one thing is pretty sure, if we don't do anything, the problem will solve itself (which usually means war...)
- What amount of natural resources (lithium for batteries, neodymium for wind turbines, ...) would be required, where would it come from, how would we transport it using renewable energy, ...
- What's the EROI for each renewable energy source? Would it still be profitable if there are any unexpected maintenance costs or externalities?
- Your link mentions "unsustainable energy consumption" as one of the issues, does that mean the transition will involve increased energy poverty?
This may not be happening, but I see some suspicious signs:
- Energy expenditure per capita in the US peaked in the 70s and hasn't gone up in 50 years.
- Fracking companies have never made a profit.
- Arabia Saudi has been pushed to extract more barrels since the war started, they haven't, in theory it's for political reasons but some experts mention that they may be unable to increase production any further.
PS. Actually France kind of did [1], but then they stopped.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_France#Messme...
You build a well insulated home with heat pump HVAC, Vs a shack that you need to constantly heat with imported fossil fuels.
Why are we supposed to celebrate the latter? Doesn't seem to benefit anyone but the people selling fossil fuels and asthma doctors.
As for massive energy deployments, go look at a graph of solar and wind deployments (it's sometimes hard to find them without hydro, which totally obscures the trend), then check the sober predictions of expected rollout.
We've already escaped the trap, and people like this were keeping us in it for no obvious logical reason, just tribal politics.
I also believe people today are too comfy and ignorant because they rely on the system fixing things for them, it's a bottomless pit. Slower pace and smarter usage seems a better path IMO. People that know how to act efficiently in groups are probably the happiest.
IMO we need to produce less, consume less, and stop destroying whatever remains of life other than the human species. More energy doesn't seem like the solution to that.
We were told 1 billion people was unsustainable a century ago, look where technology brought us. Not only we manage almost 10x more without mass starvation, but at the same time everyone is much, much richer than their great-grand-parents
Really? We're going towards mass extinction right now. And I think it's pretty safe to say that the growth that allowed us to get here is what's killing us. I don't think we can say we managed, we just haven't paid for it yet.
producing less and consuming less means less people in the end. Are you in favor of that? Because nobody wants to live with subpar level of life.
I'm optimistic about future cost reductions to both batteries and PV. I'm pessimistic about the possibility of any future cost reductions to nuclear.
Despite this, I still think there's a place for nuclear — diversity (and not just of power supplies) is inherently a good thing because it de-correlates risks.
Changing this state of affairs is certainly possible but would also take several years.
Granted, it's not like we are starting from zero - in 2021, renewables amounted to 22% of all total final consumption of all kinds of energy in EU (not just electricity, that is), up from 8.5% in 2005. It only puts forward already existing plans, accelerating development through 2030 (45% renewables) and 2050 (75% renewables), while increasing energy consumption and yes, electrifying everything.
And no it doesn't require any terrible effort or funding amounts anyone will even notice.
It doesn't require any batteries.
Panic is simply not justified. U.S. shouldn't worry because it has more than plenty of fossil fuels for the next 50-70 years even with no technology improvements, and by then, renewables will be so cheap they will fill in the market by themselves, Europe will go through RepowerEU, and China, well, the worse for them, the better for us (although with their level of industrial capacity and skill of doing things on scale, i'm sure they will be fine too).
and "In the short-term, we need alternative supplies of gas, oil and coal as quickly as possible"...
So it's about a third of the EU consumption and it may include just changing supplier, not reducing oil...
> 2030 (45% renewables) and 2050 (75% renewables)
Of course, we will not be using any Russian energy long before 2030. About half of it is gone already (all coal, about 40% of oil and 60% of gas), and at least 80% will be gone by February next year. It's just that we will see elevated prices on most energy for a few years after 2024 or so when Russian supplies will zero out for all countries apart from Hungary.
PV produces ~150W/m^2 for a very optimistic solar input of 1000W/m^2. PV produces this output only 50% of time (when sun is up, very very optimistic), so 75W averaged on 1 day
France Nuclear production is 61370MW [1]
To replace all the nuclear power plants, we would need 818 million square meters of PV panels, which amounts to a square grid of 30km.
Obviously you'd have to spread this along the longitude so that eastbound PVs would still be alight when the westbound have fallen out of the terminator.
It doesn't look like much actually. But I'm not counting the batteries to compensate for the night fallout, and I'm assuming 100% sun input all the time.
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"Yes, let's consume everything, screw conservation. Drive more and bigger cars. Cage all the animals we need, and kill the rest. Trees? Cut them all. So what if that sort of thinking destroys the planet? We need to think bigger: there is a whole galaxy out there to consume, I mean explore. Humans are awesome. Woooo!"
Psychos.
The low energy trap BS is nothing new. Tell me, what do you think they mean when they say we need to consume more? How does it all work? It's psychos all the way down.
Perhaps 'less'is not the answer. However, 'more' certainly is not either.
Why not?
There are so many false dychotomies and assumptions in your comment I do not know where to start.
Also, a word on nuclear. People seem to ignore the fact that nuclear is by far the most expensive way to generate electricity. If you want to impoverish your country, build nuclear power stations! It's much cheaper to build renewables and use the surplus electricity to create hydrogen which can be stored indefinitely and then burnt when the wind isn't blowing and the sun isn't shining.
Except that the _healthy_ carrying capacity of the planet _is_ 2 billion people, assuming a vegan consumption somewhat less than a first-world level.
Put an omnivorous consumption at first-world levels, and it’s somewhere between 500 million and 1 billion.
Sure, the planet can “support” ten or twenty billion or more, but only by farming 100% of the planetary surface and making 99% of all species extinct, whereupon a complete collapse of the biosphere would quickly ensue, resulting an effective planetary carrying capacity of 0 humans for the following several million years as the biosphere recovers.
If we were willing to cover the entire planet and make 99% of all species extinct (and I agree that would be bad), greenhouses would are enough to boost production to the 100 billion to 1 trillion range, hydroponics and aeroponics about ten times that.
But that's expensive and we don't have a clear and present need to shift away from open air farming in most cases.
Tldv; if we pave over the earth the carrying capacity is humongous. Only limited by heat and energy.
> The resulting EAT-Lancet reference diet promoted increased consumption of nuts, fruits, legumes and vegetables and suggested that global consumption of red meat and sugar needed to decrease by more than 50% by 2050
https://eatforum.org/eat-lancet-commission/
They're working on version 2 at the moment.
But yeah, eating much more food than your doctor recommendeds and subsidizing lots of terrible things going into processed foods is bad, If that's what you mean by "first-world levels".