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It's surprising that Mitchell Bakers still is Mozilla's CEO. Firefox has been bleeding users for years, but no change in the command.

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"In 2018 she received a total of $2,458,350 in compensation from Mozilla, which represents a 400% payrise since 2008.[14] On the same period, Firefox marketshare was down 85%. When asked about her salary she stated "I learned that my pay was about an 80% discount to market. Meaning that competitive roles elsewhere were paying about 5 times as much. That's too big a discount to ask people and their families to commit to."

In 2020, after returning to the position of CEO, her salary had risen to over $3 million. In the same year the Mozilla Corporation laid off approximately 250 employees due to shrinking revenues. Baker blamed this on the Coronavirus pandemic."

What market is she talking about? Does the market for the executives of declining browsers that lost their market share and have no clear prospects command such wages?

I've been offered over 2x as much as her to drive a browser into the ground, but I rejected the offer because my family wouldn't accept the shame of accepting such a meagre offer. /s

> What market is she talking about?

I guess that would be the CEOs of Google (Chrome), Microsoft (Edge), and Apple (Safari)...

That would be hilarious

This alone makes me want to stop using it. I won't, because the alternatives are worse, but goddamnit that's gross.

Why not move to a job that pays more if you're qualified? I hate that CEO comp goes up just "because market" but staff wages are stagnant or lost entirely.

She said her pay was 80% below market. Not is. Why move if you can stay and get paid the same?

There must be something in the water in California.

Mozilla excessively prides itself on progressive signaling, whilst internally running the place like the most cruel neoliberal companies out there.

The problem is that we took the LSD out of the water.

> Mozilla excessively prides itself on progressive signaling, whilst internally running the place like the most cruel neoliberal companies out there.

Isn’t this just most companies?

Definitely, this is just an extreme version of it.

Isn't that the typical way of these companies signal hell out and then be fully neoliberal. Signalling after all is pretty cheap. Or at best couple million even for big companies.

> I learned that my pay was about an 80% discount to market.

And your performance is actually much worse than 80% discount in other companies. Any CEO with such results would be fired in 2 years anywhere else.

> Baker blamed this on the Coronavirus pandemic.

Sure, always blame external factors for your own incompetence. That's what politicians do every morning during breakfast.

I wanted to support firefox but when I first read this a whil eback it made me lose all sympathy and support for Mozilla. As long as she's the head, I won't be using their services and products

> Steve stood out to us because of his extensive experience at tech and internet companies where he played instrumental roles in shaping products from research, design, security, development, and getting them out to market, and also because he was the only seemingly qualified candidate that didn't call me an incompetent overpaid retard to my face.

I believe Mozilla has been losing market share, but not users, while the market has grown substantially, often on platforms that have banned alternative browsers.

Maybe that's now changed, but if it has, and Mozilla is actually losing users, I'd say it probably has more to do with those platforms choices than any particular woman you don't like.

It’s 2022, it doesn’t surprise me.

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