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What an incompetent shitshow.

I don't believe this will impact AAPL's price though. Shareholders and ad sellers are the only "customers"/"users" Cook's Apple is interested in and works for and news of this vulnerability will be shushed or soothed outside of tech forums.

Whether this will be somehow fixed (Dear Cook's Apple, consider starting with not keeping decryption keys together with encrypted data, duh) or ABI/compatibility will get broken, Apple's marketing will sell the news to shareholders as an improvement and the magic of capitalism will boost the price.

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>don't believe this will impact AAPL's price though. Shareholders and ad sellers are the only "customers"/"users"

This is completely wrong. Apple makes very little of its revenue from advertising. Their cash cow customers are iPhone users.

Like many/most public companies, Apple doesn't work for cash cows (it's the other way around) but their real customers - shareholders.

Hmm. What public companies do you know of that don't work for their shareholders?

Fresh IPOs have products quality which made them IPOs. It gets downhill around that time and pro-user changes to pro-shareholder, which are very often in opposition.

Shareholders are not customers FFS. Stop repeating that like it’s some grand insight.

Shareholders are owners and shareholders want money. The way to get money is from customers. You don’t make money from shareholders unless you’re running a Ponzi scheme.

> Shareholders are not customers FFS. Stop repeating that like it’s some grand insight.

Customer is a recipient of goods provided by seller or vendor in exchange for money or other valuables. User of free service is not a customer by that definition. Unless you would openly treat privacy as currency.

Investor who gave a company money is - in my view - a paying customer. They give a business some cash, expecting more in return. It is not paying for service but it is still paying and expecting something in return. A publicly traded company is a product itself and investor is buying that product.

I see so many ads for their own products inside their products. I hardly believe they don’t make any money from that.

They do make money from ads, but it's a rounding error compared to anything else they make.

idk why there's so much negativity in your comment, tbh. i don't think that's how apple is at all, and a lot of issues are simply a result of too many priorities and things falling through cracks until improvements are made on focus and development efforts. it's not as malicious as you think

> idk why there's so much negativity in your comment

I'm a MacBook Pro 2017 owner. It's the negativity towards Cook's Apple in general.

Currently my biggest issue with Apple is that their phone is still the lesser evil. Other than using iPhone, Jony Ive and Tim Cook efficiently moved me to other brands.

FileVault is the actual crypto protection. The inner encryption just likely defeats scanning for known secure strings.

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