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> Documentation is limited, but Bun’s Discord is very active and a great source of knowledge.

:-1: I loath to use discords search interface to look for information. I'm sure the Bun team doesn't see this as an end goal, but I wish forums were still a thing. At least they're mostly indexed.

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> Choosing proprietary tools and services for your free software project ultimately sends a message to downstream developers and users of your project that freedom of all users—developers included—is not a priority.

— Matt Lee https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/opinion-github-vs-gitla...

I agree, but nobody bats an eye if your open source project is hosted on GitHub.

I see your point, and I don't use GH when I can avoid it, but those are very different in my mind. GH, for all its flaws, is a value-added hosting service on top of git. It interoperates freely with any other Git host and you can clone/pull at any time. Discord is in an entirely different category: a completely proprietary reimplementation of IRC, with rent-seeking features bolted on.

IRC is horrible compared to Discord at least you have a history to of chat vs nothing.

This is why SourceHut provides an IRC bouncer with its paid subscription because they are committed to the usability of IRC.

A friend and I recently started a dev collective (https://pico.sh) to work on projects targeting the smol web. We decided that many popular communication and collaboration tools would not fit into our stack. Things like GitHub and discord were out of the question pretty quickly.

Instead we opted for Sourcehut and irc and have been pretty happy with the results.

For issue management, sure – but just using Github doesn't remove the semi-decentralization of git.

At least some of the things on GitHub are not inside a walled garden.

I am all for moving away from GitHub, but GitLab is dogshit:

https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/issues/22578

https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/issues/556

I think Codeberg is a better option:

https://codeberg.org

How is that first issue a blocker for you? It arguably makes the plafond worse to have more gamification and social features.

Anyways, GitLab vs. GitHub is a myopic lens for the quote I posted. All proprietary software choices have consequences, and it this case we're focusing on the parent's issues with Discord vs. open alternatives.

In this case, you're not supposed to search. You're supposed to ask your question, hoping that once somebody gets annoyed enough to repeat the answer over and over, this question gets deemed worthy of documenting.

This was my experience working with Unreal Engine. Couldn't figure out what to do next until I could get somebody to take a look at my problem and that would take multiple postings on discord to get somebody's attention. Somebody had the galls to get upset by my question because he was in the middle of getting help on his.

This support by discord or community only on discord trend needs to stop. It's just creating toxicity and those with malice/narcissism personality dominates.

Rarely do fast response times create a sane knowledge based community, it only agitates and lots of noise is created as a result.

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