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Is there anything preventing widespread adoption of Plug and Charge? And could it be implemented in a way that doesn't require registering with every charging company separately?

I have literally 17 different charging apps on my phone. Almost all of them are truly awful clunky garbage, and seem to exist solely to harvest my private information, and to press "Start".

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We put a QR code on every charger and provide a web app so that users don't have to download another app.

Plug and Charge is exciting, but there's many limitations. Mostly comes down to vehicle manufacturers and charger manufacturers. On both sides, there are many that don't support ISO 15118 yet.

ChargePoint's security concerns about ISO 15118 published a few years ago were also valid (https://www.chargepoint.com/files/15118whitepaper.pdf). A man-in-the-middle attack is possible with the current version of the ISO 15118.

My impression is that car manufacturers have just been slow to roll it out, and that the implementations aren’t that standardized so there’s another layer of adoption by the charging networks that has to happen.

Agreed about the apps. Have you found any that you particularly like? Pretty much all of them are just map > list of chargers > start button. NFC tap or scan a QR code if it’s “fancy”. But I’ve yet to use anything I thought made charging a nice experience…

Ionity and Fastned are the only two I have a positive opinion of. Fastned especially, because they do support Plug and Charge.

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