Research shows circadian clock influences metabolism, cell and tumor growth
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Since when? Last time I checked they're selling real meat from animals that lived in an absolute horror show for their short life, which came to a close in the slaughter house where they're drowned in CO2.
Show me a single article which reports with proof that McDonald's accepted this kind of meat at scale.
You won't find it because they don't have to. They're paying cents per pound of meat because the meat industry has gotten extremely efficient at producing it.
Animals are artificially inseminated whenever they're not pregnant using sperm provided by a lab, fed soja and corn to maximize growth etc.
There are a lot of issues with the food, but the "meat quality" is likely higher then the stuff you buy at a supermarket.
You can literally go to court if what you claim is provable as they're making clear statements that its 100% beef. There are no asterisks on that, it is beef as defined by law.
Ah!
then I suggest you keep doing what you're doing because life isn't lived in the aggregate, and if your behavior works for you there's nothing wrong with it. If your schedule is liberating to you throwing that away for a 0.1% chance of whatever complication probably isn't worth it, as long as you're aware of the trade-offs.
It's not hard to fix for most people either. Switching off devices and lights at night, and getting sunlight in the morning, is often what's needed to fix what presented as mild DPSD or N24 sleep disorder.
Yes. This neurotic obsession with health that categorizes every deviation from the norm as something that needs fixing rather than a choice that people make needs to stop. Smoking is bad, drinking is bad, unhealthy food is bad, staying up at night is bad. For everything that even remotely makes live fun you now have some health fixated busybody lecture you on it.
You've swept the dose of the poison under the rug in order to make your point that it's neuroticism and health fixation to suggest that people should avoid morbid obesity.
that isn't what I said. I said that people should make their own decisions and listen to themselves. If they feel bad being obese, they should change it. If they don't, they shouldn't. What people ought to stop doing is being driven by others to make these decisions. And that is where the neuroticism from an entire self-help and lifestyle industry comes in.
the OP is apparently happy with his lifestyle and feels good and that's what they should care aobut, period. Smoking is a prime example of this. Other than in public places it's a purely private choice. If people enjoy smoking and they're aware of the risks other people should stop meddling with their decisions.
Well let's agree to disagree on this. When these obese people age a further 20 years and get health complications caused by metabolic syndrome, they will wish they could go back in time and change things or they would wish that the people around them didn't placate their desire to destroy their own bodies. Someone's current feeling, which might just be because they're misinformed or addicted or on autopilot and not thinking about it, doesn't count for everything. It's also not just a private decision when my insurance health premiums and taxation pay for the consequences of their self-destruction.
2. Trying to hard-sell people into making changes, whether by scare tactics, shaming, and so on, might cause them to actively avoid making those changes. Simply telling people what they're doing is unhealthy and they should stop it is often not enough. Public health education is an incredibly difficult and lacking area.
3. There's only so much that could be done to encourage or deter people. At some point these half-measures of nudge economics are useless, and if you really want to improve public health, you might as well start banning harmful products and practices, and mandating healthy ones. That would be more helpful than being a nag.
I would like to see that. More regulations or taxes or even bans and mandates (within reason -- we don't want a prohibition like situation that does more bad than good) applied to supermarkets and food chains (not individuals) are needed, for two reasons. The first being that they're taking my money for their healthcare, which gives me moral buy in into questions surrounding any self destructive habits that will take more money from me than necessary. The second being that the concept of free individual choice doesn't cleanly apply to any product that hacks our dopamine system, as with unhealthy food being sold to people who are addicted to unhealthy food, i.e. the morbidly obese.
This is unsolvable and consequence of existing in a society. Unless you’ve disavowed all the “unhealthy sins” and actively avoid all risk factors, maybe then you can hold such a view. Doesn’t mean others should listen you though…
Members of a society have a responsibility to not impose unnecessarily burdensome costs on other members of society. If someone wants to develop metabolic syndrome on their own dime, that's none of my business. As it stands, it is my business, because the costs they're imposing on me are unacceptably high.
Just do your thing while you feel like doing your thing, and if there comes a time that something personally meaningful makes you want to do something else, do that thing.
Lifestyle research is great, but it’s glacially slow, prone to dramatic revision, and inherently impersonal. It’s not meant to be a textbook on how to live your life.
"Lifestyle research is great, but it’s glacially slow, prone to dramatic revision"
Would you say this about smoking and morbid obesity? Just because some things in lifestyle research are wishy washy and uncertain doesn't mean all of it is. Rotating shift work is one of the things to avoid.Meanwhile, challenges to the consensus around morbid obesity are skyrocketing to the top of thoughtful communities like HN as recently as last week.
I’m personally skeptical on both fronts, but also don’t find myself drawn to either, so my skepticism isn’t practically meaningful.
And especially since I’m not much effected, I can’t moralize over somebody else’s relationship to those beliefs or how they live in light of them. If they want to hope vaping is safe and obesity is misunderstood, or even if they’d just rather be a fat smoker and take statins, that’s kinda their thing to sort out. I can’t possibly expect myself to know their context better than they do.
Also, people get hurt at all hours of the day. For one, I'm quite happy that if I get hurt at stupid o'clock in the morning that there will also be medical staff awake at the same hour to help rather than making me wait for banker's hours before being treated.
"influence our biological clock, including night shift work, extended light exposure, changes in sleep/wake cycles and altered feeding behavior,"
Is it anything that deviates from going to sleep when the sun sinks and sleeping through till you naturally wake up when the sun rises?
What about those:
Waking up at night because you have to pee?
Waking up early because you got something on your mind (like work related problems that need solving)
Going to bed late because you addictively browse HN?
Jet lag after travels?
Not taking an after lunch nap when I feel like it?
Needing to be wakened by an alarm?
Generally bad or not enough sleep?
>Waking up at night because you have to pee?
You may want to not drink large amounts of liquid before going to bed, altering your liquid consumption times/schedule could resolve this.
>Waking up early because you got something on your mind (like work related problems that need solving)
Stress is known to generally be bad for health and well-being, there are animals can outright die from too much stress.
>Going to bed late because you addictively browse HN?
Stick to a better schedule.
>Jet lag after travels?
Don't travel too much if you can help it.
>Not taking an after lunch nap when I feel like it?
This may have to do with an unhealthy diet
>Needing to be wakened by an alarm?
Personally I've noticed that after using an alarm for a month or so, I start to naturally wake up just before the alarm is set to go off.
>Generally bad or not enough sleep?
Definitely an issue, if you cannot find a solution on your own, you may want to see a specialist.
Sleep apnea causes nocturia, so that might not be a solution.
Large disruptions are worse than small ones. Waking up 1 hour earlier than normal occasionally is not a large disruption. Jet lag because you woke up 5 hours earlier would be a big disruption.
What does a big disruption look like in terms of measurements? All of the many processes than normally oscillate together in phase go out of phase.
I'm no expert in this stuff, but if you want to read about it, search for "chronobiology".
Does the fact that my natural sleep habits are so off-the-bell-curve put me in the "disrupted circadian rhythm" group or not? I never feel sleep deprived. And I've been told by specialists that trying to force myself to sleep a normal schedule could put me at a significantly increased risk of dementia, alzheimers, stroke, heart attack, and more.
So the thought that I might still be doing myself harm sucks.
And how does it affect people living close to the poles, where the sun basically doesn't set for 3 months in the summer and doesn't rise for 3 months in the winter. (Scandinavia, Canada, etc)
"Probably the best study to illustrate the effects of an unstructured life during the Antarctic winter is that of four Greenpeace volunteers over-wintering at Cape Evans Base 77°38′S in 1990 (Kennaway & Van Dorp, 1991). For the entire period of sundown (sun below the horizon for 126 d), all four (three men and one woman) showed free-running rhythms of all the variables studied: sleep, aMT6s, electrolytes, and cortisol. Each person free-ran with their own period initially, although two (a man and a woman) subsequently free-ran with the same period. With the return of the sun, all four resynchronized to the 24-h day."
> Chronobiology is a field of biology that examines timing processes, including periodic (cyclic) phenomena in living organisms, such as their adaptation to solar- and lunar-related rhythms.[1]
I suggest going for the pill for anyone who struggles.
source: https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/common-anticholinergic-d...
This is why blue-light-dimming night modes are being integrated into devices.