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TikTok bombards young men with misogynistic videos

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The whole platform seems terrible but I wonder why are these articles specifically calling out misogyny? I have seen plenty of misandry as well and they should be presenting a more holistic viewpoint that the app is just creating discord among people in general.

Here’s one example I was able to quickly find: https://www.tiktok.com/discover/are-men-useless

Because the guardian & such outlets are not about depicting the most accurate & unbiased view of reality but about telling a narrative.

Their audience doesn't care about alternative facts.

Andrew tate

The overton window of the general public is much wider than the overton window permitted by current establishment thinking.

From the position of establishment norms, this means _any_ platform with user generated content will inevitably become an "internet hate machine", surfacing a stream of abhorrent ideas which should be censored.

Absolutely.

The general public is very authoratarian, misogynistic, racist in very large scales than we in the ivory tower would like to think.

We should all be thankful to have you censoring the internet for us to make sure only correct thoughts are speakable I see.

I think you may have misinterpreted the parent comment. The parent comment doesn't support establishment norms, it just says what they are.

One thing I hate about these opinion articles is that I can never find the offending video and watch it with my own eyes because it is not on the open web.

The article also seems to equate criticism of feminism with misogyny, which is fairly unsurprising for The Guardian.

I think the issue is that content like this is available on all platforms, but if you watch a video to completion on TikTok, it’s algorithm basically immediately starts showing you similar videos that people in your demographic also watched. It’s part of why it’s so popular and fun - I get things about home redecoration, cooking, music, British comedy, etc., but my wife gets completely different content.

Even if some of the things he says are dumb or exaggerated, he still makes more sense than the "progressive" delusion that we've been bombarded with for the last 5 years.

And he's also pretty funny, so I consider him and his message as an overall upgrade from the current state of affairs in social media.

So glad to see this appear on a major newspaper.

I have encountered this phenomena again and again in popular media.

Mysogynist content is rampant in video media in FB, tiktok, local clones of tiktok.

Snapchat has this issue too with their discover page

YouTube Shorts have the same problem where no matter what, all videos regardless of topic arc towards Jordan Peterson and Joe Rogan. It's deeply frustrating.

It's tailored to your preferences, so you must be responding to them. It also seems a frankly ludicrous claim, given leaks have shown YouTube de-ranks anyone even an inch right of center. [1]

[1] https://reclaimthenet.org/youtube-ai-suppression-dave-rubin-...

What about when you first open an account and stary scrolling your feed? What if you are bombarded with stuff of poor taste then?

Whose fault is that?

YouTube in incognito mode for me is popular media, talk show hosts from mainstream media, dancing memes and MrBeast. The only way you'd see that kind of political content is if you feed into the algo.

That might work if it was conscious and intentional. If Aunt Martha, sends you a stream of political spam and you occasionally click on them in case there was some implied nonpolitical or interesting content, you've fed the algorithm something, and now you're in the "My Tivo thinks I'm gay" rabbit hole.

There might be ways to redact your profile, but they're hardly well publicised and surgical.

And I'm always confused whether disliking the video increases my chance of seeing similar due to engagement, or lessens the chance due to it being a dislike.

I'd hope the latter.

Those are popular creators but fairly mainstream. One has the most popular podcast the other is a evolutionary psychologist that writes self-help books.

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