Except nobody seriously thinks that if someone "stole" their identity, that they're on the hook for the fraudulent loans. The consumer is one of the victims here, in the sense that they have to go through the hassle to have the issue resolved.
I don't think anyone who has ever dealt with the aftermath of identity theft that want promptly addressed would say that.
>not keeping an eye on your credit report doesn't mean you're responsible for the fraudulent debt.
It does mean that disputing charges or accounts becomes way more onerous.
So? It's also more onerous to recover your belongings if you don't have an alarm system and the burglar makes off with your things instead of being scared away.
There's an option to just not deal with anyone who uses their services, but this might include landlords, mortgage companies, and employers.
As to the analogy -- who is Experian in your analogy? And how does the analogy simplify the explanation? I think it is unnecessary and obfuscating. It removes the agency if the entity that has caused the problem in the first place.
The negative consequences is precisely why it's correct to call the consumer a "victim" here, as mentioned in my previous comment.
>I said "apparently" because I don't see any moral reason that individual ought to be responsible for monitoring Experian's data collection, but to monitoring these reports does somewhat reduce the risk that they've created and nobody else is going to do it for you, so...
I also don't see any moral reason that individual ought to be monitoring their belongings (or paying a company to monitor their belongings for them).
>[...] the risk that they've created [...]
>As to the analogy -- who is Experian in your analogy? And how does the analogy simplify the explanation? I think it is unnecessary and obfuscating. It removes the agency if the entity that has caused the problem in the first place.
Okay but this feels like you're moving the goalposts from the original discussion of "is identity theft some sort of scheme to convince people to take responsibility for fraudulent behavior?" to "is experian responsible for leaking personal information?". "Identity theft" has existed well before credit bureau were breached.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/25/identi...