What the Vaio Z says about Sony's little design problem
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But really, my main issue is that this article appears to be written by someone with an agenda and little actual knowledge. The laptop's name, for example is the Z14, not that long string which is the model number. Practically all laptops, even the Air, have those model numbers associated with the specific configuration. The box for my Air has it listed on the back, in fact.
Make up your mind? It sounds like you just agreed with the central thrust of the article -- Sony had a great design and junked it to have something "new".
I also think they should break VAIO up into two brands, one for cheap computers and one for high-end ones. They could be like Toyota/Lexus.
A letter (or two) followed by digits denoting the series iteration is Sony's standard naming convention. If you google "VAIO S360" or "VAIO Z12" you'll find exactly what you want. But, if you're not looking for your model year, you can google "VAIO S Series" or "VAIO Z Series" and get what you want.
I don't find it very hard, especially since the series names stay pretty consistent over a long time.
I believe the author is delineating between "iterating" being small improvements to a relatively static product as opposed to "versioning" which are fairly significant changes between releases. Compare the 2008 MacBook Air 1 to the 2011 MacBook Air 4.
The screen is really awesome, it's incredibly fast and I actually really like the touchpad. The keyboard is not great, but none of the options I physically touched--I never saw a physical Lenovo X1; that could be good--had particularly good keyboards. The Air's keyboard was not bad, but it had an annoying layout with small arrow keys and an odd ordering of meta keys along the bottom.
Overall, I am extremely pleased with this computer and would probably buy it again, although I would also consider looking at the X1. However, an X1 configured to similar specs as the Z costs about the same and I've heard both the screen--which is really awesome on the Z--and the batter life are worse on the Lenovo.
It's interesting that people cross shop MacBooks when looking at Windows PCs, especially given the Mac's unique keyboard layout.
The only unfixable annoyance I noticed on the Mac keyboard was the arrow keys; the rest could have been ameliorated by changing the keyboard layout a bit, I think (unless it's somehow codified in hardware).
I could point you to solutions I use like controller mate - pretty handy to remap.
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FWIW, I use Thinkpads as my personal laptops and I find the half-height arrow keys on my Apple wireless keyboard fine, but mileage may vary.
I wonder how they achieved that good battery life in Z series, given that they use standard-voltage CPU (as X1 and X220 do, too)
On this topic, does anyone know of any major manufacturers who dont do this with their consumer machines? I have had really bad experiences of late with Dell, Toshiba and HP, to the point where they come with what is essentially malware built in. As one example, our latest dell purchase redirects search queries, puts a link to ebay on the desktop which comes back once deleted, and prevents you from adding an alternative search provider to IE.
Think different.Contrast this to a lot of Windows laptops where your first boot requires running the gauntlet of nagware & cruft. The device itself might be just as capable (or more), but you've already either confused or annoyed the new user and reduced the likelihood of that immediate emotional attachment.
I know there are real business reasons why the cruft gets included, but I would argue that there are far more compelling reasons to leave it out.
Lenovo isn't too bad. I recently bought a Lenovo laptop for running Windows7 and the only thing I recall having to disable at startup was a boot optimizer (which helpfully had a 'Dont run again' button on it)
The Windows install on a Thinkpad I bought a couple of months ago was pretty much crapware free - if I am not mistaken, the only third-party utilities that were installed on the system were ones from Lenovo, for controlling features like power saving, OSD, etc..
The specs are amazing for this 2.5 lb laptop, but it still doesn't do justice to how disappointed I am with the keyboard. The travel distance is so minuscule, its uncomfortable to type on. You find yourself slapping keys but feeling like you didn't really press the key. The space bar sucks, you have to hit it pretty hard to make it register.
The trackpad is pretty small and awful, 2-finger gestures only works 50% of the time. I had to disable the fingerprint reader because it would activate everytime using the touchpad (you would always hit it by mistake).
Those are literally the only 2 things I dislike about this laptop, the keyboard and touchpad. I use a portable bluetooth mouse a lot (Razer Orochi) which does alleviate a lot of the touch pad issues, but the keyboard is god awful.
That said, the power media dock is a novel feature, external graphics, blu ray and all...I haven't used it once haha. I think that's because I have a nice custom built desktop, no reason to use the PMD.
EDIT: The keyboard is worse in my opinion in comparison to a macbook air which I owned for a year before I sold it.
I just wanted to add on top that, I tested out a Lenovo T420 edge...quite possibly one of the nicest keyboards I've ever typed on.
I could be nitpicking since its still a nice keyboard. However, for that price, you should expect perfection.
The fans are loud, but only if you use a significant amount of CPU, which I almost never do. If some errant process cough flash cough is taking up too much, I can hear it and deal with it (this alleviates the annoyance a bit).
The trackpad, on the other hand, is brilliant. Using multiple fingers works every time (on Linux, anyhow) and it's actually pleasant to use. I think that all your issues with it would be resolved with Linux; the bloatware is also gone. I've played around with Mac trackpads, and like this one more.
Have you had problems with the space bar? I have to press it harder than normal to get it to register.
EDIT: I've been meaning to install linux on it, now I have a real good reason to try it out. What distro are you using?
I have not had any issues with the space bar--my only problem has been with the left shift key.
I have to add that the only gestures I've actually used are multiple finger scrolling, pressing with multiple fingers and circular scrolling (which is pretty cool). I don't have zooming--it tends to annoy me more often than not, so I don't know if that works well (or at all) on Linux.
> but companies like Sony make good designs then abandon
> them intentionally because they're blind to their own
> good design choices.
I see this pattern a lot. Situations where people trade away their strengths by trying to mimic what's glamourous.Here's one - look at the way that OS desktops compromise strengths in order to be more like OSX. Microsoft was so focussed on making Windows feel more like aqua that they compromised things where they were strong - like the way you could get around with hotkeys, or set up items in the old start menu to be launched by two keypresses. The gnome team had what was to me the best desktop environment out there and have traded it away in their quest to be the poor-man's Aqua. (Give me window switching - I hate application swiching. In what situation would I want all of my terminals to come to the foreground in front of the web browser I'm copying commands from??)
Sony has 90% great, like awesome, design - then screws up the remaining 10% with either "meh, screw the user" or "hey, dig into his wallet" wrecking the rest. I've had two of their ultraportables, and try as I might to love them there's just one neurotic breakdown after another; my next is a MacBook Air.
other things it has over the air are half the weight owing to carbon fiber vs aluminum and a smaller battery owing to an Atom CPU (a feature - can tell which code is slow), and a full array of hardware ports and slots, a matte-screen with almost 0 reflected light readable in direct sun, a fan that is off most of the time, and GPS/3G. gma500 is main problem, but Alan Cox's driver is getting OK enough to use
Apple products have always been derided as "under-speced and over-priced", yet customers keep voting with their wallets to the contrary. Knowing first-hand how those Vaios tend to blow their superior specs in the oddest ways, I'll take the Air.
It's a workhorse.
I can comfortably edit two documents side-by-side in Emacs, on a 13" screen! It really is perfect--anything less would be really annoying now.
http://www.the-hikaku.com/pc/lenovo/ThinkPad-X220.html#displ...
This is very interesting, considering that one of the core philosophies of Japanese business is kaizen, or continuous improvement.
DISCLAIMER: I am using Linux full time on this laptop. Some people have issues with the fingerprint or trackpad on Windows - theses are software issues which aren't present on Linux.
Fan: they're not loud. It's quieter than my MacBook. In fact, I can't hear it in a quiet room. It's only loud when running full speed; which is rare enough. And that's not louder than the Mac.
Trackpad: it's in.. the regular spot.
Software: it's loaded with Sony stuff mostly. You can remove or reinstall if you dislike it.
Key travel: yes, it's shorter. No I don't see the issue with it, after having used it for quite a long while now. I switch to longer key travel keyboards and back to the Z21 without noticing.
The rest is just "look, my iMac design didn't change in 4 years it's awesome, changing design sucks!".
Now... let's see what the Z21 has and the others.. just plain don't.
SSD: Hello raid0 SATA3 SSDs. Have you ever reached more than 500mbyte/s read/write? Heck, sometimes its going near the 1000mbyte/s sequential. Copying stuff, reading has never been faster. Non-raid0 desktop computer with the fastest SSDs are just way slower. Won't even mention Macs with their subpar SSDs.
Screen: Hello 1920x1080 anti-glare screen. How the hell are others not all anti-glare by default ?
CPU: Hello regular voltage i7 2620M. The air CPU suddenly look.. you know.. just not in the same range.
Heat: what heat? It's extremely well extracted on the side and the rest of the system is at room temperature. Even under extreme load. A problem Apple didn't really solve by the way.
Connectivity: USB? check. USB3? check. VGA out for those conferences? Check. HDMI out /w audio? Check. Audio jack, ethernet, sdcard, lightpeak? check check check check. Tell me when the mac book air doesn't need a bunch of adapters to do more than USB. higher power USB for charging? Heck, check again.
Weight? Lighter than the Macbook air says enough.
Battery life? Extensible well above 10H via a laptop-wide sheet. Smart. Paris-New York, no need to charge. Of course, the standard battery isn't a let down either at ~5H real time use. (they're both rated 7h and 14h max as far as I can remember, but don't quote me on that)
Now with all that, what more could there be? Oh wait.. I mentioned a lightpeak port didn't I.. so yeah, a 600gr+ device can be added to the desk while you're not on the move.. bundling a very decent ATI graphic card, a bluray drive, and more ports. You can drive 4 screens at the same time, although its convenient only up to 3. (oh noes.)
Oh and, does it run linux properly? yep.
So it's an expensive device, but considered all the above, it's pretty decent I guess.
Finally, the actual bad, and yes, there is some bad:
- speaker: they work, but god they're bad. they're terrible. Not a big deal, but still, at this price... the jack is very good tho.
- lightpeak will probably not take off, that said, its mostly used for the side device only and serves as USB port, so who cares.
- way the laptop sits on the desk you may sometimes find positions where its not sitting properly, if your "desk" is not flat
http://www.wired.com/reviews/2011/11/sony-vaio-z/
The whole point of the review was as a lead into the part about the keyboard changes. All the posts arguing about how the Z21 is awesome are missing the point of the article.
Whether whatever laptop you like is good or not is irrelevant to the authors point, just as it is irrelevant to the products that follow it.
The QWERTY Keyboard has a slightly odd mapping for the shift key indeed. Likewise, US laptops might have slightly more crapware /w Windows that I had (?)
The really fast hard drive access time is particularly nice, especially since I regularly need to run tests involving IO-intensive database calls.
EDIT: Also, can you tell me which distro you're running?
What Macbook are you finding louder than the Vaio? I have a 2010 MBP and I can't ever recall hearing its fan, even under heavy load.
The central point of the article -- that Sony occasionally stumbles on great design and then randomly iterates away from it for no good reason is telling. Just consider the fact that Apple stuck with one standard connector -- however flawed -- for the iPod since day one, while Sony hardly even manages to release a single generation of MP3 players with common connectors.
i have a MBP1, MBP 13 mid2011 and a MBA mid2011, the MBP is louder than the vaio on average (that is I can hear the fans). The vaio is dead silent til I compile stuff on all CPUs, then fans are loud, although not as loud as the MBP 15.
The article took the Z21 as target to make an example of "what not to do", not a MP3 player. If it did, maybe i'd agree with it. But, it did not. And unfortunately for him, the Z21 is actually awesome.
The touchpad is noticeably NOT centered, but placed so to be under both your thumbs with your fingers on the home row. The Macbook has a way bigger touchpad, but it's aligned to the left of the spacebar, not to the right. I'm quite sure that for a smaller touchpad, Toshiba got it right and Sony got it wrong (particularly for left handed people).
Conversely, Apple has gone through a plethora of different types of video connectors over the years.
http://www.luckydragon.net/2009/03/apple-vga-adapter-cheatsh...
Nitpick: They did not. The original iPod only had a 6-pin FireWire connector for data and power; the dock connector was only added on the third-generation iPod, which was the first to use USB.
I find it really annoying and for that reason alone I will avoid the hottest CPU + GPU model in the future until Apple finds a way to reduce the volume.
Don't know about Z, but when I got a simpler Vaio for my wife, I spent 4 (FOUR) hours removing and uninstalling all the preloaded crap. Symantec alone required 2 reboots and defiantly tried to scare the shit out of me until its last breath. This is as annoying as it is insulting. The laptop is simply not usable out of the box. That's not even considering that 4 hours is over $500 worth of my time, which is - I am inclined to think - a bit too f#cking much for a $1200 laptop.
However, the problem is not with the hardware, or the software. It's the fact that Sony sells products, while Apple sells experience. That's the difference.
Also I'm supposing that the cheaper the laptop.. the more crapware you might get. So there is no "too much for a $1" laptop, at least that's not the way economics work. Even if that sucks.
Also I'd like if I was paid over $100 per hour like you. Heck I'd be hella rich :) $800-$1000 per day!
My salary in a week :-)
Really appreciate it. Bit of a bummer. Oh well.
I have looked at the Z21, but I haven't heard many reports about linux+lightpeak, so I am holding off my purchase until I can gather more data.
"The trackpad's in an odd spot."
"This hardly trenchant criticism, especially if you're used to island-style keys."
"so successful that you can walk a store and not see a machine that doesn't have one."
Is this really the level of writing that comes out of bb now?