AI generated, command whatever you want. It will generate mind-blowing images
midjourney.com
midjourney.com
long dark, alaska, night
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/976997500349186119/10...
samurai, van gogh, portrait
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/976997500349186119/10...
black girl magic, reghal, cornrows, epic, majesty, warrior https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/976997500349186119/10...
temple, heaven, flowers https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/989739808286974002/10...
That's good for now. It's early days and it's pretty busy already. I don't like Discord much but I'll admit it's a pretty good interface for something like MJ as you can see (and be inspired by) other people's prompts and discuss the process in a live way. The amount of realtime product feedback they are getting is amazing and it's fun watching it from the sidelines. The founder also does live calls on the voice channels where he talks about how things are going - it's a very interesting group experience for a product.
I'd argue Discord is great for attracting creative types. The number of HN comments complaining about how complicated Discord is (not yours so much, but the ones where people refuse to even countenance Discord at all) strikes me as odd given my assumption the typical HN user would be a high openness, hacker-ish type keen to try new things.
I think I could be considered as a high openness, hacker-ish type keen to try new things, and my avoidance of discord isn’t that it’s complicated (hard to use), it’s that it’s complicated (unnecessary busy). From the notifications being a lot of noise by default to threads being so much work to catch up on after the fact, it’s just heavy and dense and complicated.
Caveat: It seems much more geared towards users who commit significant brain-space to the subjects they join (for example: catching up on threads is easier if you’re paying attention to realtime notifications), whereas I have a lot of interests and really just want the gems whenever I “sit down” to work with a particular interest.
On larger servers discord has started defaulting to a feed channel summing up all the others and displaying popular messages/subthreads with a facebook/twitter type algorithm.
What people are saying (including me) is that it's not fun for them, and Discord feels like a big hindrance instead of a benefit.
The flow was invite -> public discord channel with other people that don't know about what prompts work well with their model -> run out of free GPU time -> subscribe -> move to private discord message where none of the social aspect matters.
By the way, /help for the bot works. Surely we always try the help flags?
I have no idea why they went to Discord, it hasn't provided any benefit to me personally, at least.
More likely, they are hiding from bots that will scrape / crosspost?
I also read an interview with the CEO where he said they noticed that mostly people don’t know what to ask it to create, so they just input boring prompts (“a dog”) and, I’m guessing, walked away soon after. But together, seeing what others do, they went much further with it.
They have close to a million users on their Discord, seems to work out not so bad... But I suppose the real reason was simply to save time and money.
Presumably they will make a better interface available as they shift from early testing to productization.
7. To test I typed in our sun exploding in a super nova 8. In fractions of seconds the chatbot responded with the image 9. Here is the image ->https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/989268285575008376/10... 10. I feel I should have gotten to step 9 a lot sooner and they should make it obvious what this can do with a better demo or something 11. super cool, going to play with this rest of the day, thanks HN community
I never saw this is kinda staff. May be its future.
or just recruitment "we're hiring" spam? impressive advisors, but that's it
Can you add a telegram option?
On the whole access with discord thing, and objectively going through it:
* It's a great way to harvest emails and profiles, similar to using facebook login - but it already has a natural filter to noise. For example, the crypto/NFT space is very on discord.
* Being able to use humans to generate these images is a great way to get better resolution on what would be a good NFT signal generator...
* The way discord works, it's easier to collect user metrics vs. website & google analytics. Every time the server gets overloaded, you know you hit a user threshold and expand. Pretty smart way of onboarding also -- there are "newbie" chat rooms, free trial chat rooms, and I assume paid chat rooms. No need to build it since using the chatrooms does it for you!
Cornucopians naturally point to all the many new possibilities and argue that this is a net benefit for humanity, but in general people make such arguments about things they perceive as a net benefit for themselves; with huge ML models you get text, art, music or whatever manufactured on demand, and you get to feel creative in the sense of museum and gallery curators being adjacent to historical or artistic items. The problem is that you can feel like this all day, but you won't be any more able to perform absent the aid of a digital prosthesis.
It's very 'don't ask questions, just consume product and get excited for next product.'
All tools are prostheses. Mastery of a tool incorporates it into your proprioception. Do you think about the motions your fingers need to make, when you type? No, of course not - you think about the words you are writing, and they appear. AI tools will be the same, once we get used to them; we will be able to think about the things we are creating at a higher level of abstraction.
Once upon a time there were workrooms full of skilled artisans who spent their days copying books by hand. Along came movable type, and that creative endeavor became financially worthless. Today practically nobody has those skills. A loss? Yes... but do we care? Not really; we'd rather let the 'mechanical prosthesis' of the printing press handle what now seems to us to be the rote work of book production.
Most copyists were not illuminators. Typing does not preclude other forms of writing (eg with a pencil, which I use almost as much as a keyboard), and typing is not a creative endeavor to begin with, unless you want to get into ASCII art.
There's a difference between generative and the merely productive. You could spend 10 years using AI picture generators, and it will not develop your ability to draw a picture on paper. Making selections as a consumer is not the same as creating something, for the same reason that food appreciators in a recent aren't halfway to being chefs.
My point was that it does not matter whether you can "perform absent the aid of a digital prosthesis", because digital tools are not fundamentally different than any of the other kinds of tools humans have developed throughout our history. Creativity is always a function of the tools available. Creative thought is always shaped and enabled by the capabilities one can draw on. Different skills come and go as they are needed.
When the camera came along, the art of representational painting and illustration lost the importance it previously had. Why hire someone to spend hours making a picture when the camera can do it better, quicker, and cheaper? But of course painting and drawing did not go away, they just evolved into something else. Meanwhile a whole new creative form developed on top of the new technology of photography.
A different analogy: once upon a time, making music involved years of practice, learning to play an instrument, understanding how music works, memorizing compositions. Then records came along... and a few decades later, someone invented DJing. Is a DJ a musician? Not in the traditional way, they're just playing recordings of other musicians after all! But a whole new art form developed at a higher level of abstraction, looping and mixing recordings into a seamless performance.
I believe the same will happen with tools like DALL-E and midjourney. Some creative practices will diminish, because the robots will be good enough, and it won't make sense to have humans do those jobs anymore. But those skills won't disappear; they'll just become specialized, and people will find new strange creative things to do with them. Meanwhile whole new kinds of creative expression will emerge on top of the new AI tools. They won't look like the skills we value today, but people won't stop making creative use of their environments, so they will eventually become new disciplines as well-developed as anything we have today.
Prompt was omniman vs homelander vs superman
No, thanks.
If you tie yourself to Discord, or other social media platforms, then I'm out.
- this is just like slack, and I already use and don't mind slack
- after using Dall-E's webinterface for 3+ months, I actually like the image generation interaction via chat, its history transfers seamlessly between my devices, social feedback is built right in etc.
Also this AI idea of anime style is more akin to a Tony Diterlizzi style than actual anime/manga.
Discord is a cancerous black hole on the internet.