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Is there a similar device on the market right now?

A 'bigger version' by two orders of magnitude surface wise certainly seems innovative to me, I'm not aware of another company risking their reputation on something like this at present but I'll be happy to be corrected.

There was an intel proof-of-concept but I'm not aware of anything that was actually available to the public.

Keep in mind that what looks trivial to you ('just a bigger version') may require an enormous amount of engineering to make it reliable enough for mass consumption.

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> 'bigger version' by two orders of magnitude surface wise certainly seems innovative to me

Is it even one order of magnitude?

It's actually 16 orders of magnitude bigger than a 5" smart phone... if you use a base of 1.08

There's no defined base for order of magnitude so technically you can use anything!

Lenovo X1 fold. It was announced last year.

Exactly. It's basically the same device executed a bit better..

But priced itself out of the market at EUR 4900...

Not sure where you've got the high price tag, it's priced starting at USD2,499 in the US. Recently it was selling at a steep discount at £899 in the UK [1].

The 2nd gen ThinkPad X1 Fold release is just around the corner [2]. Will be very interesting to compare the 2nd gen X1 Fold with the new Asus Zenbook Fold.

[1]Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Fold foldable Windows tablet selling for a steep discount:

https://goodereader.com/blog/tablet-slates/lenovo-thinkpad-x...

[2]Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Fold Gen 2 teased with a refined design and even a TrackPoint:

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X1-Fold-Gen-2-...

I just went to Lenovo's website and searched for the X1 Fold, which landed me on https://www.lenovo.com/nl/nl/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x1/X1...

A little more searching indeed yields much better options in Holland, like EUR 1978 at https://www.bol.com/nl/nl/p/x1-fold-g1-r-i5-l16g7-256gb-13-3...

One has to wonder why Lenovo tries so hard to scare people away with their official pricing?!

The problem of foldable screens is the fold not surface are. So the fold is longer now.

These isn't a real innovation to me.

Is a smartphone with double the screen size innovative?

its 100 times bigger?

Just so GP knows how much bigger "2 orders of magnitude" from the Galaxy Fold would be, it's >16 square meters of screen space. That would mean a screen north of 160" on it's diagonal. Somehow, I don't think 17" cuts it.

That would be an innovation, have never seen a screen that big.

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