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Startup wants to copy you into an embryo for organ harvesting

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I hope my embryo is birthed and allowed to grow up for a few years, preferably in large, underground towers in the middle of the desert. Whereupon they are gifted a vacation to a nice resort on the sea.

What film is this ??

The Island directed by Michael Bay.

My daughters probably think I am an old guy with outdated ideas, but that's not how I think of myself. Yet I find what is described as the goal of this startup as absolutely dystopian and evil.

>> Yet I find what is described as the goal of this startup as absolutely dystopian and evil.

Why?

A clone is legally and ethically equivalent to a twin brother. You’re creating a twin so you can harvest his organs. The fact that the embryos are not currently viable long-term is a technicality.

Create new life. Label it other via technicality, harvest it for your own purposes.

Evil.

It depends on what you consider a person.

To me the unique feature of humanity is the brain. Functioning brain, it gets rights. No functioning brain, it's just tissue. And they're not proposing to take it far enough along that there is a functioning brain.

Thus I have no problem with it.

> Create new life. Label it other via technicality, harvest it for your own purposes.

How is this different from planting crops? (Assuming you don't consider agriculture "evil".)

I will clone it brain dead. Is it still evil?

According to Friedrich Schelling, true evil is the actualization of what should remain only a pure possibility, the actual bringing about of what should only exist in discourse. And here we have an example par excellence.

For the people in this thread who have the “this is dystopian” take, how do you resolve that humans are just fine with raising cows, chickens, pigs just to harvest their flesh? It’s probably also best not to think about what we put lab rats through. If anything doing this for medical reasons is a way more ethically justifiable reason than chicken nuggets.

What makes humans so special that growing a 50 day embryo, not even a person by pro-choice standards, is terrible?

An embry has the potential to become a person.

As McCoy said on _Star Trek_, "I will not peddle flesh."

Either people are unique and to be valued, or they are commodities to be bought and sold.

It's also a technology which will widen the gaps between the haves and the have-nots.

Archived version here: [0]

[0]: https://archive.ph/2022.08.04-164140/https://www.technologyr...

None of these cloned embryos will be viable. They are harvesting cells. Not organs. Clickbait title. Misleading.

Wow, we're already at Parts: The Clonus Horror. Good job, civilization.

If it doesn't have a brain I'd be cool w/ it

Aldous Huxley looks more like a prophet every year.

You say that now, but you won't complain when you have epsilons mowing your lawn.

> your lawn.

My self-control has kept me free from the dependencies that create the conditions for having a lawn or needing it mowed.

Edit: adding https://www.the-utopian.org/post/25567348762/aldous-huxleys-...

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