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So first, the work is cool from a data analysis perspective, and it's always worth seeing this kind of thing for it's own sake.

Other than that, who cares. We've driven the diminishing returns on new evidence of climate change to zero. There is not a smoking gun that is suddenly going to change perception.

Stop using AGW as a political lever, and start looking for (implementing, because they exist) solutions, both in terms of carbon removal, and adaptation. The burden of proof has been met, we don't need more data. The only cause more data serves is preaching to the choir that wants to use AGW to implement large scale socialism. Stop doing that, and start solving the problem.

(I still think the analysis is neat)

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> wants to use AGW to implement large scale socialism

I would argue the problem is the hyper-vigilant anti-socialists since they have sabotaged all proposals, including market-based ones.

How many posts does it take this chain for someone to say nuclear doesn’t work, and then mock free market too?

Aren’t you tired of it? We’ve all seen it a thousand times.

I certainly am, It's just the same old echo-chamber reverberating across themes

If you looked into how nuclear power plants get built you'd probably call it large scale socialism. But you got all your talking points lined up in a perfectly sensible row, I wouldn't want to topple them over.

>If you looked into how nuclear power plants get built you'd probably call it large scale socialism.

Are you saying that is why it's been an overall failure?

Maybe. But nuclear power wouldn't exist at all without some large scale socialism to prop it up

There's probably some element of this as well. My point is that we've got lots of "deniers, bla bla" type comments that seem to want to focus on looking down on others (how could they be so ignorant in light of this grape harvest data) instead of realizing that what people are opposed to are the "solutions" being proposed that somehow nicely also promote some kind of political world view. Take the politics out of the equation, and "deniers" are not going to care about the minutia of grape harvests or ice cores.

Or instead I guess we can just keep congratulating ourselves on how airtight the case for AGW is and mocking "deniers", hoping one day we get the political tools to ignore their concerns.

Anyway, I'm happy to be reminded of why i stopped posting here.

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