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The Sun or the Daily Mail are far more "popular" than the Guardian. The Guardian is more prestigious, you won't see the top students in journalism studies saying that their dream is to work for at the Mail on Sunday :)

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To the sister comments: There are scientific definitions of quality and prestige in journalism. Some of them align along the demarcation of yellow press and "high brow" press [1]. Some do not. But it's neither irrelevant nor understudied. It's just that quality and prestige tap into an immensely complex value system that is highly specific to national cultures and temporally unstable.

[1] https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/978111884157...

They just have different audiences. It does not make one more prestigious.

The difference is, even a reader of the Sun would probably agree that the Guardian is more prestigious (they just wouldn't necessarily think that that's a good thing).

That’s pretending that there’s prestige in being a student in journalism.

Well, some people consider it a great sign of prestige to be personal nemesis of some of the world's most powerful people. Or, as Nixon's attorney general allegedly said about the washington post's publisher Katie Graham: "Katie Graham … is gonna get her tit caught in a big fat wringer if that’s published" [1].

[1] https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2007/08/the-nixon-gang-s...

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