What’s the strangest thing you ever found in a book?
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I mean, it wasn't my first experience with the university prioritizing profit over helping students, but it was definitely emblematic.
Most of us figured out that we could get along fine not having the textbook in the first couple of weeks of class. But ultimately, the university was out to actively sabotage the used textbook market. The only source of used books was online. So I never got to experience this community of used book students.
At any rate it turns out the English printing is so rare not only can it not be found on Libgen - the few copies online are selling for hundreds of dollars (which I certainly would not have paid for it). So not only did I luck into a paper fortune (I suspect this is a rather illiquid market - plus I had to go through and fix a bunch of typos by hand, so much for the Soviet STEM educational complex) the kids _definitely_ couldn’t find this on the Internet.
Except my political science prof. So I just dropped the course. Fuck him and his unironic bowtie.
Something about paying the source for licensing and distribution was the reason given.
Same as good class hand notes from students, that get (or used to get) photocopied and handed down through the years to new students...
As I interpreted their story, the professor had a habit of asking questions and then answering them himself, if nobody offered an answer. Students wrote down those answers in the margins of the book.
Over time, the book collected a lot of these notes from different students.
The cold in the room seemed to deepen. “A sixth-year Gryffindor cast a curse at one of my more promising students, a sixth-year Slytherin.”
Harry swallowed. “What...sort of curse?”
And the fury on Professor Quirrell’s face was no longer contained. “Why bother to ask an unimportant question like that, Mr Potter? Our friend the sixth-year Gryffindor did not think it was important!”
“Are you serious?” Harry said before he could stop himself.
“No, I’m in a terrible mood today for no particular reason. Yes I’m serious, you fool! He didn’t know. He actually didn’t know. I didn’t believe it until the Aurors confirmed it under Veritaserum. He is in his sixth year at Hogwarts and he cast a high-level Dark curse without knowing what it did.”
“You don’t mean,” Harry said, “that he was mistaken about what it did, that he somehow read the wrong spell description—”
“All he knew was that it was meant to be directed at an enemy. He knew that was all he knew.”
And that had been enough to cast the spell. “I do not understand how anything with that small a brain could walk upright.”
“Indeed, Mr Potter,” said Professor Quirrell.
There was a pause. Professor Quirrell leaned forward and picked up the silver inkwell from his desk, turning it around in his hands, staring at it as though wondering how he could go about torturing an inkwell to death.
“Was the sixth-year Slytherin seriously hurt?” said Harry.
“Yes.”
“Was the sixth-year Gryffindor raised by Muggles?”
“Yes.”
“Is Dumbledore refusing to expel him because the poor boy didn’t know?”
Professor Quirrell’s hands whitened on the inkwell. “Do you have a point, Mr Potter, or are you just stating the obvious?”
“Professor Quirrell,” said Harry gravely, “all the Muggle-raised students in Hogwarts need a safety lecture in which they are told the things so ridiculously obvious that no wizardborn would ever think to mention them. Don’t cast curses if you don’t know what they do, if you discover something dangerous don’t tell the world about it, don’t brew high-level potions without supervision in a bathroom, the reason why there are underage magic laws, all the basics.”
And when Harry had offered that hypothesis, Draco had claimed that he could remember a story - Harry hoped to Cthulhu that this one story was just a fairy tale, it had that ring to it, but there was a story - about Salazar Slytherin sending a brave young viper on a mission to gather information from other snakes.
If any snake a Parselmouth had talked to, could make other snakes self-aware by talking to them, then...
Then...
Harry didn't even know why his mind was going all "then... then..." when he knew perfectly well how the exponential progression would work, it was just the sheer moral horror of it that was blowing his mind.
And what if someone had invented a spell like that to talk to cows?
What if there were Poultrymouths?
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> I only read 5-6 chapters
So you didn't read it.
As others have mentioned, the first couple of chapters are definitely not the best. But yeah, the book isn't for everyone.
Especially the first few chapters, because there were more attempts at science explanation in HPMOR's initial chapters.
"So I wonder- is this story ACTUALLY teaching people things? Or is it just a way for people who already know some of the material to feel superior to Hariezer’s many foils?"
Actually that's exactly what rubs me wrong about the entire "rationalist community". A lot of it is convoluted ways for people to congratulate themselves how much smarter than everyone else they are.
> The author is practically screaming “wouldn’t it be lazy that Harry’s darkside is because he is a horcrux?”
This is completely backwards. Eliezer goes to great lengths to put big clues all over the place that Harry is not a normal 11–year old, with the intent that the reader will _notice_ that something is wrong and try to figure out what it could be. Yes, “Harry is a Horcrux” might feel like an anticlimax, or even a cliche, because that’s how the original books went. But you’re supposed to look even deeper and realize what a horcrux really is. In order to work, a Horcrux has to preserve a copy of the caster’s memories, personality, intentions, etc. What really happened that night in Godric’s Hollow is that Voldemort copied his own memories and personality into the brain of an infant named Harry Potter.
I think it is fair to say that Eliezer is treating this as much like a Fair–Play Mystery as he can, so that it is possible for the user to make correct predictions about the end of the story. Not everyone likes this type of story, but for those who do the game of putting the book down at a certain point so that you can puzzle out the murderer’s identity is a big part of the draw. The “rules” of the Fair–Play Mystery are there to ensure that the author remembers to actually make all the clues available to the reader, that it isn’t always just the butler, etc.
To that end, he has several important scenes that examine the consequences of erasing memories, or adding new ones. The most blatant is when Harry is training with Mr Bester, who has all memory of the training erased after each session. As a result, Mr Bester ends up asking the same questions over and over, and being surprised and troubled by the same revelations each time he reads Harry’s mind. And then of course there is Rita Skeeter, and later Hermione, to hammer the lesson home.
Describing it as a Harry Potter fanfic is technically accurate but really doesn't do it justice. It's basically a story of what would happen if an extremely smart, educated and technically minded person would do if put into the role of Harry Potter.
Overall, I would recommend to not give up in the first chapters.
Just don’t actually think about it too deeply or the entire premise falls apart. The world is 100% operating on the rule of cool, and that's ok.
A buddy of mine had a copy and I took the class for an easy A. The only gotcha is that you had to be physically present and give him advance notice of you were to be out.
My EM theory second year was quite tricky
It was 60 questions in 180 seconds. No hard calculations, just stuff you were an embarrassment to the prof if you passed EM and didn’t know.
He gave it right before break (3 hour class). I got a 96 first attempt. Next highest grade was a 30. He said I could leave as the remainder of class was to go over the test. I literally strutted out and said I was going to have a cold beer. Good times.
The term is "dynamic storage allocation." We're talking about something so old I'm afraid I can't explain beyond that. I am a mere programmer and I don't wear a lab coat.
A young man went back to visit his old economics professor, under whom he had studied many years earlier. He took a look at the final exam the professor was preparing to give the students. He said, "Professor, this exam is identical to the one you gave us year ago!"
The professor replied, "That's okay, all the answers have changed."
He was right. The final exam was verbatim the practice exam given at the end of the book. As luck would have it, I had discovered the practice exams a week earlier. Once I realized they were identical to the final, I literally copied the answers and handed it in. It was a 3 hour exam and half the class was done in 15 minutes.
Not everyone was there on time, some students were going to drop & add the class and most people weren't paying attention.
He casually joked for a couple minutes then settled down to get started.
There was never another hint.
When the final came, each question was verbatim from homework problems that were not assigned.
At the end it told you to ignore all previous questions and just do this one.
2nd favourite exam question after an economics multiple choice exam where we had to calculate the probability of passing the exam just by guessing.
I imagine there's a somewhat similar type of questions for non-CS disciplines (same case description, different key clue, hence different answer).
I had the most fun with multiple choice tests. I took the average A,B,C and D answers from previous tests. The teacher not paranoid would have a lot of B, slightly less A and C and below average D answers. The paranoid teacher would have perfect distribution. The supper paranoid used some kind of RNG which also comes in patterns.
One of each type came to ask me how I did it at the end. The last one was funniest. He had one test with a trick question that everyone got wrong. It just didn't have enough C. One of my answers was more likely wrong than right. I had to go over the A,B,D answer candidates a few times. Reduced the list to 3 potential trick questions. Figured out that 2 of them were correct. Don't ask me why but the remaining one must have been C.
He explained how over his [long] career he started out with to few D answers. I name the other teachers still doing that. He then went for the perfect distribution. I name the teachers still doing that. And now he thought he had the perfect formula. How am I suppose to fix this?? He asked. I'm like, I'm not doing your homework but I do foresee a very interesting meeting with the other teachers.
edit: I did study but cheating was just to much fun. When they switched to tests on computers I made a good bit of money as administrator. I swapped some of the answers around so that the wrong answer was right and everyone got poor grades. They would purchase the list of correct answers from me. Then after they aced it I would reduce their grade to something sensible for the student. When they protested I told them that they paid for answers not for grades. Grades are very expensive as -hey- they could potentially ruin this good thing I got going here!
If so, this is some real unethical and criminal behavior.
But I'm inclined to think it's all made up considering the first part of the comment seems to imply that you were doing well on tests simply by guessing the answers based an A,B,C,D distribution. Which is silly as the best you are going to do with that strategy is maybe get a slight hint for a few of the more difficult questions.
They got many answers wrong on the test but I adjusted their grades later. The grades do have to be credible for the show to continue.
> and then charging people money to get the rigged answers for the tests so they could pass?
People who didn't bother to study purchased the answers but if they always had low grades they would forever have low grades.
> If so, this is some real unethical and criminal behavior.
The only thing that really bothered me was this: Modifying the log files left a log entry with a terminal number in the log. I provided the teaches with a fair clue by changing the test answers and indeed eventually they smelled a rat. The cat and mouse game couldn't go on forever, eventually they would figure it out. I picked a scapegoat, a girl who couldn't hurt a fly. It couldn't have happened to a nicer person.
The teachers ganged up around her pointed and shouted then suspended her for a week.
I thought they acted ridiculous so I erased everything from the server and arranged for backups to be formatted when attached.
A few years later I ran into her and apologized but she didn't recall the event.
The teachers were very happy to return to paper based tests.
> unethical and criminal behavior
Ah yes, was I ever that young? We got computers in school and all we were allowed to do was tests. I assure you I've learned quite a lot. For example: Backups should have write protect implemented in hardware. Who in their right mind....
I finished 2nd in my high school class (humble brag) because my best friend cheated (and got a zero) for an important biology term paper.
Story:
- My friend hated biology and he decided he would save time by submitting his older brother's bio term paper as his (his brother was 4 years older).
- A month after we handed in our term papers, the bio teacher asks my friend to step into his office, whereupon he shows him a copy of his brother's term paper. Big fat zero.
- It dinged my friend just enough that (even though he was more talented) he finished 3rd in the class.
- I ended up getting a tuition waiver to our state university (where we both went).
That laziness cost him about $10K in tuition (in 1980s dollars).
edit: the person who finished 1st in our class went to Yale. She was more talented than both of us combined.
Oral examination is way superior but you need a healthy “students to prof” ratio for that
I felt like I was BSing my entire oral exam but got an A.
I was never the same after that course. 10 hours a day of logical homework fundamentally changed how I thought.
To this day I still cringe when people use phrases like everyone or all without actually meaning the set of everyone in existence.
As a maths lecturer once said: some of the problems will be similar with some of the numbers changed. Pi, however, will remain the same. ;)
It's nice when you find someone trying to improve there love life when the honeymoon phase is over and the somewhat crushing reality of her/him shortcomings come to the surface.
Didn't that defeat the purpose of the critical thinking course?
Do you have a scar on your eyebrow?
In most cases, somebody just doing the obvious thing at the beginning of the book would have left nothing to write about in the rest. So, they just didn't do that thing.
> I really wanted to keep it for posterity
Actually, by reselling the book back to the bookstore, you did literally ensure it's utility for posterity.From the wiki page: `Harry finds an old potions textbook, once belonging to "The Half-Blood Prince", an individual who wrote numerous spells and tips in the book. Harry, using the tips in the book, excels in Potions class, winning a bottle of Felix Felicis, or "Liquid Luck".`
Hi Katie, we should meet up over tea over these images. The first image should be a simple sketch of two dudes playing football, tell the guys in graphics that the one they gave me is waaa too complex. The second image should be a chick playing tennis.
The note went on in this manner for a couple more sentences, describing all the images on the page. Because I was a blind student who used a screen reader, I had to get the PDF version from the publishing company, which I then put in a specialized ebook reading app for the blind. I strongly suspect that the editors of that book used some PDF tricks for hiding information to post notes to each other. Whether they were alt descriptions, white fonts on white background, regions shrunk to be 1px tall by 1px wide or something else entirely, I do not know. That file was intended for printing, not digital distribution, so I guess that they decided the notes didn't need removing as long as they weren't visible.
Do you use any tools to interpret images in other content?
(The videos are filmed by her boyfriend, in case someone has to wonder.)
I realize that the vid is not too informative to a blind person, other than a vague demo. IDK where to find more info on the setup, since I'm not a user of iPhones myself. Comments on YouTube say that the magnifier app is in the accessibility options, that it adds a home screen app when enabled, and that it works at least on iPhone 10 since that's what Kristy uses.
I would also guess that such usage requires persistent mobile connection and consumes considerable traffic and battery—but again, with modern tech magic I won't bet against it working locally on the phone.
On Android, the feature called ‘Lens’ in the Google's camera app can describe some things, more useful to seeing people IMO: e.g. the model of a car—basically the same as Google's image search does, these days. Also purportedly can read and translate text signs. But IDK how far that goes, never heard of it doing stuff like those descriptions by the iPhone magnifier.
It’s very possible that recognition happens locally, Apple has been making efforts in this direction for other functions (photos) but maybe the 6s is just too old and can’t do it.
In fact, I'm not sure that the magnifier is necessary at all for the descriptions: this page says that Voiceover simply does that in the camera app: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/iphone/iph37e6b3844/io...
And this page says that ‘image descriptions’ in Voiceover options should be turned on for that: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211899
It seems that Voiceover is available since iOS 12: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/iphone/iph3e2e415f/12....
iPhone 6S shipped with iOS 9 but is upgradable to the current 15.6. Though features may indeed depend on the particular phone, i.e. the hardware.
Also, apparently Voiceover changes the way the phone should be controlled, to its own set of gestures—so it's not a feature to use just with the camera. However, it sounds to me like blind users would find it helpful anyway.
> When I asked the auctioneer afterwards why he’d let it go so cheaply, he said, “Did you see anyone trampling you to get in a bid?” I said no, I didn’t. His reply, with a smirk on his face, was, “Gotta’ know your audience in this job.”
> Well, needless to say, I got the books home and spent a few years going through them and selling some, giving some away, etc. However, that’s not the point of this story. The point was finding things in books. So, with that in mind…
Dude goes to an auction and finds books. Nobody bids on the books. Dude is amazed that the auctioneer is willing to sell him something nobody wants for a low price. Dude spends years going through those books.
I'm happy for this guy.
This is sort of like the time I went to a car auction as a kid and some college students bought a lightly used stretch limo in perfect working order for (the minimum bid of) $100.
The article does not say that or anything remotely similar.
> ... I looked through some of the books in the top boxes and realized that there were some very old, and often valuable, books in this boxes.
You're right that this isn't saying that the books were definitely worth a lot of money, so it really say something remotely similar.
However these are definitely not liquid, if you are going to sell them you maybe have to store them for a long time.
At one point it was hard to get and were selling for $700 - they are now $50.
Had a friend find a bunch of $100 bills in a used book in Salvation Army in SF...
Similarly, I'm looking for the complete Collected Works of Carl Jung, and that's got a hefty price too. Maybe one day. :)
I'm sure both of these examples are sitting in some old man's study and are getting sold for nothing at estate sales, if they aren't just thrown in a dumpster or pulped after being donated to a library that can't get rid of them either. But nobody is indexing estate sales.
Out of curiosity, why this specific publication? Can’t you get everything in that collection from other publications (perhaps not in one volume)?
Any scholarly person who loves old hardback books and spends a few decades collecting ones they personally want or need is going to end up with some worthless books, a large number that sell for $10–50 each, and a few that are worth hundreds each. It’s just inevitable, unless they go out of their way to only collect junk.
If I had to guess I’d put the price of the old man’s collection in the $10k–$30k range. But it’s plausible it could be more, if he collected anything rare.
Books by the Foot will sell you books for about $0.20 per book https://booksbythefoot.com/product/shelf-filler-bulk/
Good auctioneers know what goes to each category.
Nowadays half of the market is flippers and scalpers, prices have shot up, and nobody is getting a pallet of good books for a dollar anymore.
I can go onto ebay and order things from the US that were never available locally in my home country. The same with Yahoo! Auctions for items sold only to the Japanese market. And not only can I access things that I couldn't before, but I can easily search for things. Want a copy of an obscure record? No need to search dozens of local stores - Discogs will probably have a few copies for sale. Need a book to complete a collection? Try a quick search on Amazon or Abebooks.
While the prices that things sell for may be higher, I find that it is considerably easier to collect things now than it would have been before the web.
I bought a bunch of architecture books a few years ago at an estate sale for $5. Flipped through them and my son looked them up on eBay - we sold the collection for several thousand dollars.
I also love the 1999 UI, and it’s super snappy.
Booted up just fine.
I miss estate sales.
This reminds me of one of the strangest things I ever read in the books:
My Arabic Library
About eighteen months before I arrived in Iraq, one of my predecessors had ordered My Arabic Library, $88,000 worth of books, an entire shipping container. My Arabic Library was a Bush-era, US government–wide project to translate classic American books, so we now have Tom Sawyer, The House of the Seven Gables, and Of Mice and Men in Arabic. The Embassy had big plans for the books, claiming, “It is so important that the children of Baghdad, the next generation of leaders of Iraq, obtain basic literacy skills. A love of learning and literacy will mean better job opportunities for them when they grow up. They will be able to better support their families and help build a more prosperous Iraq.”
Everyone forgot about the books until we learned that a truck was bringing them in from Jordan. After our prayers that the driver would abandon the truck en route failed, my team was stuck with the problem of what to do with a container of books that no one wanted. Apparently, there was little interest among Iraqi schools in reading The Crucible or Moby-Dick, as the books didn’t fit into their centralized curriculum. I was charged with getting rid of them, to anywhere; the lucky winner needed only a truck. We cajoled a nearby school to take the whole mess from us as a personal favor. Their only condition was that they would not have to do the loading themselves, so that is how a couple of us ended up humping books into a flatbed truck while a high school principal and a local truck driver sat in the shade smoking, watching us. We heard later from a third party that, failing to sell the books on the black market, the principal just dumped them behind the school.
Peter Van Buren, We Meant Well: How I Helped Lose the Battle for the Hearts and Minds of the Iraqi People
This was very strange to me cause I used to think of American government as very efficient, and with experience of solving exactly the same problem many times already - Germany, Japan, Korea. And the thought that somebody could just waste my yearly taxes on nothing - was very strange and disturbing.
I've been told the US military is a veritable cornucopia of waste.
I think problem was that planting a book-reading habits require a lot more work than providing books.
Baghdad, before the invasion, was known for the high percentage of readers compared to other cities in the Middle East. We -Arabs- had a saying: "Cairo writes, Beirut publishes, and Baghdad reads." I doubt the above quote being the true goal of "My Arabic Library" project. I guess it was an attempt to change the culture of people by exposing them to American literature, which would help eventually the political cause of US government in Iraq.
But if there was a strategic vision in some unseen echelons of American decision making - its goal does not look like to make Iraq successful.
[1] https://www.mscroggs.co.uk/blog/tags/books (halfway down has a photo of the Scientific American issue)
At work in the secure area when locking up I found a 10 inside the door. I didn't know what to do with it so I tacked it on the bulletin board by the door. Really obvious. Nobody took it for 2 weeks (which is kind of remarkable), so I took it back to buy lunch.
I found a twenty in the snow on the street in cambridge. But it was new snow and easy to follow the tracks. It led to the security guard at the University. He was really thankfully to have it back.
Later that spring I found a crumpled $50 blowing down the street. It was near the faculty club. "Tumble Money" my partner said. Also 50s aren't really common. I kept 30 and donated 20 to charity.
But lamentably my good fortune in the finding of cash has come to an end. Perhaps the rise of the credit card changed my fortunes.
When I've worked in secure areas, I've never had the slightest concern about theft. We even did an experiment where we left a couple $1 bills out on the table in the coffee area for a week... anybody could have picked them up, especially the security guards and janitors who roamed the building at night with nobody else around, but they just stayed there.
Working in that sort of high-trust environment is really, really nice.
On the other hand I'd speculate that in a workplace, people are more likely to pick up $3 than they are to pick up $100. "It's just a couple bucks, somebody probably just forgot it here"
I'm sure I could be gone all day and nothing would happen but after 40 mins some instinct kicks in and I feel the urge to go back check everything's still there.
( oak cliff in Dallas )
The most money I've found was in Cambridge (USA), in Harvard Square.
There was an envelope/paper on the ground of a traffic island, and in it was a bunch of cash. I couldn't see anyone around who might've just dropped it, so, on a hunch, I walked into the nearest bank. I waited in line, got to the teller, and said, this is a long shot, but did they happen to know who dropped this money. As I was saying that, someone off to the side spoke up and said it was them. They'd been making the deposit for the nearby small store where they worked. They offered me a big discount in the store.
Other than that, I track found pennies in GnuCash, to have an accurate accounting of my luck and/or sidewalk germ exposure.
I'm a moderator of /r/silverbugs and we see some fun ones sometimes, if you pop over there and search "coinstar" you'll find the occasional post where members check the coin return on coinstar machines (you dump coins into a hopper, it gives you a gift card/credit at the store) and find 90% silver coins as the machines tend to reject them. Sadly all I've ever found is a nasty penny or two and a 1 euro coin which I think I chucked in the trash given I'm in central Indiana.
Over dinner we talked about what to do about this, and ultimately she added $20 more to the stash and left it in the book.
That restaurant is now gone.
Story would be even better if you had traded the pizza for 10 bitcoin.
At least that's what I tell myself when someone randomly finds $100 in a book...
One time in Japan there was a car sitting in front of my apartment for months, nobody used it, nobody touched it. It seemed abandoned. It definitely looked out of place due to its age as well, though it was in good shape.
Eventually me and the pals got amused, and annoyed, and started to do funny stuff you'd only do if amused and annoyed by an abandoned car. Like, trying the doors on one restless day while you wait for the yakimo hours to arrive.
Unlocked!
A bunch of sports gear, cassettes.
Hatchback?
Sports gear...uh...sexy times stuff...and uh...a purse.
A peek in the purse. My first time seeing thick bundles of cash, basically $100s! Stacks of 'em!
I watched enough movies to know that loose $100s, found loosely, may be OK to take, or even just to ask somebody about.
But bundles, in a purse, in an abandoned car, in a neighborhood where we had heard some organized crime rumors...nope.
Creepy af though. We wondered if she had run away, disappeared, what.
Inside I found a handwritten note from a 14 year old boy which said something to the effect of "If you like stuff like this, call me!" So I did! We ended up being friends for a couple years and exchanging C64 software and talking about nerd stuff.
When you are reading the comic book, right as you come across the scene where the heroes open the book, when you turn to the next page the same scrap of paper seen in that scene falls out of the actual book you're holding. That sent chills down my spine when I first encountered it; pretty genius.
Months later, I was looking something up for fun. It was not a book I had touched yet, and I found the following letter hand written on a sheet of lined notebook paper. I found it oddly interesting and tried looking the names a few times. I did not get anywhere near the article story, wish I had.
“Being of sound mind and body, declare this to be my last will and testament.
To my mother, I leave nothing.
To my father, I leave Farrah and the wish to be cremated and scattered over aspen, Colorado.
To Rhonda Sollberger, I leave my cat, puffer, my rabbit, Oliver, my model house collection, and my stereo.
To Tony I leave Karen.
To Karen I leave Tony.
To Gail, I leave my teddy bear, and my rainbow sweater (She’ll grow into it soon.)
To Heather Bright, I leave my Canada Dry can, and my tequila bottle.
To Mark Frang, I leave him feeling guilty and gray skico. Also some of my ashes are to be sprinkled in his room, to remind him the sad that I am not here is all his fault.
To Adheimme Boman, I leave all the items in my play house that belong to her. 13235 is the combination.
To Todd Glass, I leave my Muppit poster (It’s just his type!)
To my Grandparents, I leave fond memories.
Signed. Jeanne Gammon Witness. Rhonda Sollberger“
Is it just me, or is anyone else upset that mystery just can't exist anymore. Everything has to have a connection. It's just depressing.
Try a church barn sale sometime. You can get a wheelbarrow of the greats for 20 bucks.
Truly, I have not read yet as a middle aged man all the books I bought as a teenager.
I bought it used on Amazon. It was an old library book that still had the sleeve and index cards with the date stamps of when it was last checked out.
This particular book, that I bought sight unseen from Amazon, used, for my brother's birthday had only been checked out once in its life at the library. It was last checked out on my brother's exact birthday. The book I randomly bought him had a stamp of his exact birthday, only.
Talk about going from thinking we're so small in the universe to that kind of coincidence.
Edited to fix a misspelling
https://vdoc.pub/download/a-comprehensive-introduction-to-di...
The call did not go well. It is certainly possible that I could have approached the phone call better, and maybe I should have tried harder, but they were suspicious, rude, and quite possibly upset. So I never took the family photos to them, and eventually disposed of them.
You really never know how people will respond to having their past thrust at them like this. Or how they'll respond to strange phone calls.
Found a diary hidden in attic and after some research was able to track down the owner and return it; they were happy and enjoyed getting it back.
I've bought many books over the years that had prior owner's names marked inside somewhere. On a few occasions I've bothered to try and identify/find the person in question. Once or twice I was successful, but I never bothered contacting them just to say "Hey, I bought this book you used to own". Well, except for one time.
I was on an Inductive Logic Programming / Prolog kick, and bought several used books on the subject. Something like two or three had all been owned by the same previous owner. I looked him up and found out that he was an academic and appeared to still be working, so I thought "what the heck" and sent him a note just to say "Hey, funny story, I bought these books and <blah, blah, blah>."
Not sure what I expected, if anything, in return, but the response I did get was quite chilly. It was something along the lines of "Oh, I donated those to a place that was supposed to be sending them to Africa" or something like that. There was definitely no sense that this individual was happy to hear from the new owner of his old books, or was interested in discussing the subject.
Which is fine. Like I said, I had no idea what to expect, and certainly would have had no right to expect any particular response. But it just goes to show... you are correct in saying
"You really never know how people will respond to having their past thrust at them like this. Or how they'll respond to strange phone calls." (or strange emails in this case)
A few years later I got a hankering to read the Dune series again and realized that they had been in one of those boxes. So I went to a used bookstore and found all the original dune books but god emperor. A few weeks later in another used bookstore I found a copy of god emperor. A beat up paperback, beat up in a very particular way. I flipped to the inner back cover where I found my initials. Apparently somehow my copy of god emperor donated out on the kitsap peninsula years before made it's way into a second hand book shop in seattle where I repurchased it.
Fair enough. But at the same time, I'd almost bet that somewhere, out there, is some person who sold their copy of the Chilton's 1984 Audi 4000 manual, but JUST LOVED THAT CAR, and loves all things Audi, and would be tickled to tears to meet another Audi owner/enthusiast, etc, yadda yadda. That connection would probably result in the two individuals becoming lifelong friends or something.
It's all so unpredictable. Heh.
You did the right thing by attempting to reunite them with their (presumably) priceless property. Most people likely wouldn't react this way. I know my parents lost a TON of personal items, including countless photos, when the moving company that was hired by the USAF to move them out of CA to another assignment went under. I'd imagine they'd both have been amazed, surprised, and incredibly grateful for someone to have gone through the trouble you did.
...but who knows? Perhaps there was a divorce or bad blood in that family. At least you can say for certain you have a clear conscience, though!
I'm close to someone who grew up in the military and lost ~all their family photos and childhood things the same [EDIT: "a similar", rather] way. A little bit lost with every move, nearly all of it gone by the end. Might be a common problem for folks in the military even if something weird like the moving company going under mid-move doesn't happen.
They had a number of interesting artifacts (my mother's Australian) and other items that would've been of value for posterity's sake. Especially now that my father has since passed--photographs from his earlier years would have been worth much more to us now.
As a Christian, I'm not hugely fussed over the loss of the material things, but the archivist in my heart is pained to no end!
The albums were full of family photos stretching over years. I tracked down the owner via facebook. She had moved to another country and -- I suspect had separated from her husband.
She was not interested in the photo albums. It seemed rather poignant. I wonder what the story was behind it.
The other lady called my wife back... and the conversation went something like "how did you find me? Please don't ever contact me or my parents again, just pretend you never met me, and please, please, don't ever let my husband know where I am."
I discovered in one of them he'd written a fake dedication from the author "To ____ who could have written this far better than I".
And in the front of a copy of Tristram Shandy he'd written: "This is the 3rd copy I have bought. All the others have been STOLEN. If I ever get to read it I may find out why!"
Makes me miss him more.
I hope going through the books helps you remember good memories.
I found this odd because at the time they still went for a lot of money. Inside the very large battery door[1] I found a person's name and phone number. I thought about contacting them to see if it was stolen, but first I googled the name and found a several month old local news article about the person dying in a helicopter crash of all things. Very strange.
Here's the strange bit: His book "Roughing It" is about his experience as a young man of moving to the West, spending a few years in Nevada and San Francisco, and then visiting The Kingdom of Hawaii where he tried surfing. In 1865.
> In one place we came upon a large company of naked natives, of both sexes and all ages, amusing themselves with the national pastime of surf-bathing. Each heathen would paddle three or four hundred yards out to sea, (taking a short board with him), then face the shore and wait for a particularly prodigious billow to come along; at the right moment he would fling his board upon its foamy crest and himself upon the board, and here he would come whizzing by like a bombshell! It did not seem that a lightning express train could shoot along at a more hair-lifting speed. I tried surf-bathing once, subsequently, but made a failure of it. I got the board placed right, and at the right moment, too; but missed the connection myself.—The board struck the shore in three quarters of a second, without any cargo, and I struck the bottom about the same time, with a couple of barrels of water in me. None but natives ever master the art of surf-bathing thoroughly.
Sam embraced and exaggerated his "Southern gentleman" Mark Twain persona later in life so much, the idea that earlier in life he was in Hawaii, hanging out and surfing is quite amusing to me. Victorian surfing?? Who knew?
Twain’s descriptions of how empty Tahoe was then are pretty incredible to imagine. He guessed that they may have been the only people camping on the lake at the time.
The part where he accidentally starts a raging forest fire that spreads over the mountains is much less humorous today, I have to admit. Hopefully it was one of the times he was exaggerating for effect.
There are also excellent museums in Carson City. And, you can take the train from VC down to CC! Something I have yet to do, but am going to do soon.
If you need a local contact, hit me up. username at gmail.
1) A note from one feminine-name to another assuring her that the book it was in (which was a gift, evidently, and this the accompanying card) would be a good start to her college journey, and wishing her success. It's a Modern Library copy of Plato's Republic published in IIRC the '50s. The hand and condition of the note fit with its having been gifted around that time—so, probably it was gifted new, not long after the publication date. Found it really touching for some reason, always wished (voyeuristically, I suppose) I could learn how all that turned out.
2) Set of Ex Libris stickers in the front of a multi-volume Folio Society history of England identifying it as from the library of a moderately well-known (so I gather—I'd not heard of 'em) 1980s Conservative British politician (I'm in the US, and the online listing I bought them from made no note of this). Had a title, too, Lord something-or-other. Judging from the tightness of the spines I don't think they'd ever been opened, probably just office decoration. Now that I think about it, I should see if I can track down photos of the guy's office and spot these in the background... 5-volume set, so it might be possible to pick them out even in a poor photo.
3) Late 19th century reading-size catholic bible that must have been a family bible, because it had about a hundred years of family history in it, up to IIRC the 1920s, going all the way back to "The Old Country". I've held on to it for years because I keep thinking I should do something to preserve that or get it to someone who cares, but realistically, probably never will.
Ambassador Douglas (in pencil)
Geyelin,
4511 Cath. Ave. N.W. (in pen)
Intrigued, I started researching the names and dates. Here's what I pieced together.In 1947, Philip L. Geyelin, then working at the Wall Street Journal, gave the book as a gift to Lewis Williams Douglas, who had recently become the US Ambassador to the United Kingdom. (Geyelin had joined the Journal in 1946 and probably would have known the book's author, Henry Hazlitt, who was also at the Journal at that time.) My hunch is that the book was given to influence Douglas's thinking about economic policies that should be adopted to restore the UK and Europe after World War II.
As it turned out, Douglas was instrumental to the passage and implementation of the Marshall Plan.
2. I became obsessed with Luna Park, an influential proto-Disneyland based in Coney Island 100+ years ago. It was so popular they ran light rail out there and hundreds of thousands of people went there every weekend until it burned down about a decade later. Took a book about it on vacation to Paris. Went to a random place to read, and it had a little concourse named Luna Park. Inside it was a random coin-op machine named Luna Park, not related to the concourse from what I could tell.
3. I was studying songs by the lyricist Jule Stein, a New Yorker. One day I went into a used bookshop on the other side of the country in Newport Beach, CA just to browse. I found a bunch of books with his bookplate in them. (Nothing musical, sadly.)
which book is that? do you have photos?
UFO: https://imgur.com/zOE4WTR
City in ruins: https://imgur.com/BcZhMkk
Exceptionally happy Satyr: https://imgur.com/EBiIjDF
More info about the book:
https://library.princeton.edu/byzantine/translation/16207
Edit: Also, we need to hear more about this UFO book!
Not really related, and a bit of a "woo" book, but there's a book called Latitude 33: Key to the Kingdom by Walter Bosley that suggests SRI designed the original Disney Land in a certain way to harness some sort of "woo" energy on the 33rd parallel. There's a bit in it though (I'm 99% its in this book) that involves some peculiar man appearing out of time and place enjoying the park. I hadn't thought of that book in years but this triggered that.
As a work of non-fiction it is dubious, but it's a fun read as a work of fiction.
Now, wholly unrelated, but also a fun dubious as non-fiction but fun as fiction book: The Vertical Plane by Ken Webster which alleges that for 2 years in the 1980s messages from the 16th century and the future would appear on the author's BBC Micro computer with some interaction.
Long ago I deep-dove into the Ken Webster but found it ultimately unsatisfying because it was unfalsifiable. But what a ride!
I put the book back and didn't say anything.
It was a very cozy cabin in the mountains around Rio and I was celebrating a two-year anniversary with my girlfriend. There were a few books arranged in a short rack, mostly teen stuff, but one aged book stood out. It was an English version of Gauss' Theory of the Motion of the Heavenly Bodies, apparently borrowed from an university library in the 1970s but never returned. Inside, I found two documents from 1969, a voter registration and an exam card. They belonged to a woman with a Brazilian first name and Gauss' surname. Later, I had to transfer money to the Airbnb host, and she also had Gauss as a surname.
I was pretty thrilled with the whole thing. My girlfriend was more entertained by the cabin's cat.
I once bought about a dozen Doctor Who paperbacks at a garage sale. This was probably 1995.
Half of them contained mysterious hand-written notes which related to "keys".
Cryptic sentences on each paper like, "The fifth key is hard to find, and has many chilly neighbors".
To this day, I have no idea what it was about. Maybe the books and notes are on a shelf at my parent's house somewhere, and I'll take another pass at it some day.
ETA: Possibly references to this serial:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Keys_of_Marinus#Plot
Which had 0 to do with any of the books, as I recall. I would swear there was more than 5 notes about keys as well. Guess I'll have to dig them up and find out.
I did not keep either the condom or the book.
Nobody would have suspected the former until you denied doing it.
Thanks for sharing the story.
P.S. Time to throw that old condom away. Decluttering is good for the soul.
I found a book on Visual Basic, ironically that language is what I work in today as it's an older legacy application. This book was quite passé even for it's release, however it was a big mega-tome of information concerning version 4. The previous owner left a few notes in the margins where he would write odd musings, probably when he had them as he was studying the drab text (truly was the most boring book on the subject I've ever found) it was one of these that I found a strange comment. He detailed a woman's features, didn't come off as creepy, just kind of odd; long black hair, lovely soft brown eyes, fair skin, etc. followed by a comment to the effect of, "writing it down now, since she'll be gone." and that hit different. You could tell by how he was writing that he was quite emotional.
It's a moment that clearly communicates the the one who finds the note that he had lost that race, too bad, he seemed to really take to her.
Right before I dropped it off in exchange for another I wanted, I thumbed through for some unknown reason. Inside was a note from a girl I knew in high school, who I'd drifted apart from somewhat. It was agreeing to my plan to:
Have her move 2000 miles to where I was going to school. Marry in 1990.
I'd not seen the note in 1987, nor any time after, nor heard from her ever again - she presumably put that note there in late-1986, right about when we ended it. Long story, she was in town.
Still a looker. Yes, we messaged a bit on FB.
Oddly, we've both moved around the country a bit, and actually nearly bumped into each other. I interviewed at a place she was working in 2002. I live now, five states from there, but five miles from where she lived in the early 90s.
The first book that was ever mine, was an old copy of Dale Carnegie's How to Win Friends and Influence People, given to me by my grandfather, who, and I do not know why I remember this, had just taught me the meaning of the word diplomatic. I was in first grade.
My grandfather, who was a blue collar lineman for the university, was always coming home with books, both new and used. I inherited his collection when he passed away in the early nineties. I still-to-this-day find little notes written in the margins and sometimes newspaper clippings inserted in between the pages..just waiting to be found.
I'm really happy I found that for some reason. He's one of my favorite scientists, and it just feels nice to have a book that he once had in his collection.
Except they were worthless - there was an amnesty for turning them in, that had expired decades ago.
Perhaps the most fascinating is a drawing of an early steamship with smokestack and paddle wheels, but also masts for sails. This style of ship didn't exist for that long, and some student long ago must have seen them and been fascinated by them enough to make the drawing in the book.
The owner had embellished the inner covers and a few blank pages there.
In the most beautiful handwriting from a bold ink pen were a number of short passages, and one I will never forget:
Remember me when death shall close
my eyelids in the last repose
And evening breezes gently wave
the grass above your schoolmate's grave.
Alt: Pay attention to edge cases.
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Original binding but for some added librarians' tape to keep the covers stable. She paid $6 at a thrift shop.
I googled a bit - worth $400 to $600! She doesn't care; its all about the beautiful illustrations for her.
I guess the artist who made it was trying to say something, but I couldn’t tell what. Order matters? Books are a fraud? Maybe the punchline for a joke, “here is the book you ordered! Get it? Ordered!”
In one, I found a stockbrocker's letter and managed to trace the owner to his historic pubmed articles (all > 100 years old), as well as obituaries and probable descendants on WikiTree.
Well, going through the class I've discovered that all the writing on the margins was actually incredibly useful! I followed them whenever I could, and when we were doing routine chemistry experiments measuring pH of acids and playing with precipitation, my experiments miraculously came up with new varieties of teflon coating! While everyone else's salt crystals looked boring, I was able to grow fabulous Bismuth crystals. My class mates grew suspicious of my prowess since previously I showed no aptitude to chemistry. After an altercation with one of other jealous students, I realized that I had to hide the book somewhere safe, and it is likely still sitting in the back closet of the school's cafeteria waiting for next lucky student.
The WaPo article - Librarian finds love notes, doodles in books and shares them with a grateful public -- https://wapo.st/3SjGKNv
The inscription reads: "Phil - here's the latest opus - Watts"
Apparently the lyrics to Sheryl Crow's "All I wanna do" song were taken from a poetry book found in a second hand book store.
After the song hit, the poet got sued by the person he'd based the character of Bill on.
> The lyrics of the song are based on the poem "Fun" by Wyn Cooper.[1][2][3][4] Cooper was inspired to write the poem by a conversation at a bar with a friend and occasional writer, Bill Ripley,[5][6] in which he said "All I want is to have a little fun before I die", which became the first line of the poem. In a 1994 interview, Cooper said: "The poem isn't really about him. Or me. They're different people. They're people you can sort of see as ... well ... objective correlatives. Symbols of people like us, or what we could have been, or what we would have become if we continued to drink and do nothing with our lives."[7][8]
> Toad Hall Studio, where the song was recorded, was next door to the Pasadena Playhouse.[9][10] Crow's producer (Bottrell) discovered Cooper's poetry book The Country of Here Below in a nearby used bookstore in Pasadena, California. Crow had written a song called "I Still Love You" but was unhappy with its lyrics; she used its melody and adapted the poem for her lyrics to "All I Wanna Do".
> The song earned Cooper considerable royalties and helped to promote his book, originally published in a run of only 500 copies in 1987, into multiple reprints.[7] After the song became popular, Ripley brought an unsuccessful lawsuit against Cooper for some of the song's royalties, which ended their friendship.[7][11]
The bit that really stood out was how "anti-Billy" it was: "He says his name is William, but I'm sure it's Bill or Billy or Mac or Buddy". Like he was lying about his name/nickname. Then later - even when siding with him - says "They're nothing like Billy and me". He bloody told you his name was William!
The more I thought about the song the more I thought that the lyrics made a really interesting poem.
Then the next day I found out why!
(Book was from ebay, unread condition) Pasted inside front cover -
This book is a typical text excercise book from the years between the two world wars! It is almost useless in imparting any understanding of the subject. Almost all books on any subject tended to be like this and students often had to battle to make sense of incomprehendible texts. Even with the help of of a tutor it is difficult to see how anyone could follow it. Anyone trying to use it alone would entirely be lost and confused. There is no account of how to use it, no help with following the numbering system, and above all no ANSWERS! Even someone with a school grounding in Latin would have difficulty.
It is a fine example of the dry, pedantic and often unhelpful attitude of the time in the teaching profession where simple facts were often presented in an unnecessarily convoluted way, simply it seems because this was the academic fashion This habit only died out after WWII It has a parallel in the Victorian.habit of giving quite ordinary toys elaborate Greek names, such as the Phenakistoscope!
Every time I pick that book up I get reminded of that bill, and haven't been able to finish the book as yet.
I could never exactly figure out his motivations but I like to think that there was some sort of commemoration going on in town and he hired the flight just to have people know what a plane was like. It happened in a very rural area of Brazil, in a town that by time that had not more than 1000 habitants, no television, no paved roads, almost nothing.
I found a copy of a book called, "You are becoming a Galactic Human":
https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/you-are-becoming-a-galactic-hu...
Which was weird, but that's not the strangest thing I've ever found IN a book.
That spotlight belongs to a thrifted copy of "Be Here Now" by Ram Dass:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/41580312-be-here-now
Which is also a very strange and interesting book, but inside of it, bought from a thrift store, I found a pressed Marijuana leaf, which I still have. I would have thought that they would at least riffle the pages of the books to make sure there was no money or anything in it but somehow this leaf slipped through.
The strangest thing I ever found in a book wasn’t so much a physical item, it was more of a synchronicity of sorts.
During the 1992 Los Angeles riots, after a jury acquitted the police of beating Rodney King, San Francisco experienced a smaller riot that lasted for six hours or so, resulting in the selected looting of downtown, and the then mayor imposing a curfew and limiting movement for the night.
I remember that I had picked up a copy of Nathanael West's novel "The Day of the Locust" (1939) about a week before the riots. I was downtown when the riots broke out, and I had just gotten to the end of the book when the riots occurred in the story just as they were happening all around me.
If you think that’s strange, it gets even stranger. In the book, the riots occur in Los Angeles during a film premiere and the narrator is surprised because it reminds him of a painting he made titled "The Burning of Los Angeles".
I'd arranged with a friend to watch a movie, 28 Weeks Later (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/28_Weeks_Later). We picked a cinema in London's Canary Wharf area, not realizing that the movie was actually set there!
Spoiler: in the movie, Canary Wharf is utterly destroyed by firebombing.
When we emerged from the movie, we walked around in a daze, through areas that we'd seen obliterated just a short while earlier.
...obviously I never tried to SSH into that box.
The most common item I've found is a receipt. Sometimes it will be for the book itself; often it will be totally unrelated, sometimes quite old.
There is something enjoyable about having these little connections to a distant stranger as part of an otherwise solitary activity.
He’d used it as a bookmark I guess, but I felt profoundly loved and grateful. I miss him.
That's one serious bookmark!
We went to a few different Goodwills around town, and while the idea was exciting- it turned dark quickly when we discovered the research notes of a man who had been diagnosed with cancer. It appeared he was not going to win the battle, and he knew it. Perhaps this was his way of coping, but from the state of the medial book it appeared he did not win the battle. I don't think the zine was ever published.
Also, a few years back, I borrowed The Agebraist by Iain M. Banks from a local library and found his signature in there on the title page.
Hand writing in books is super underrated. Underlining, summarizations, etc. are all really useful. I love when I have an old technical book that has a passage I can’t understand and then some stranger from years ago who did figure out what the author was conveying explains it in their own words in the margin.
Write notes in the books you own and buy books that have notes in them.
In the late 2000s, inside a university library copy of the 2003 edition of the Clocksin and Mellish book Programming in Prolog I found a print-out (dot-matrix, by the look of it) of an email sent in 1988 from one of the authors of the book to the other, regarding how to revise it for a future edition.
(I
(BE
(NOT
(RATHER
(WOULD))))
(PROGRAMMING
(LISP IN)))
If only they'd stuck with it until evaluation order was introduced.One I opened had on the inside cover someone's full name and social security number.
I brought it up to the bartender so they could rip out that page and throw it away.
Was there a time when putting your SSN inside a book was common?
https://minarchist.wordpress.com/2009/09/15/social-security-...
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Ild books are magic. If you find the right one going for a song it’s like a gateway somewhere.
I also love old maps, particularly Ordinance Survey ones. Wonderful things.
Weirdest thing I’ve found in an old book? Squashed dead spider with the legs splayed out. Perfectly desiccated. :P
I had homework assignments that required analyzing color-coded diagrams in the book. Except the international edition was printed in black and white!
"God bless you, Jane!"
I couldn't have agreed more, and found the defacement entirely justified.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWFeC5ZqiRo
http://www.eddiemuller.com/inquisitor.html
The older actress in this is Marsha Hunt, a remarkable woman. She was 89 in this short. She's still alive today, 104, living in a house she's owned since 1946.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsha_Hunt_(actress,_born_191...
No, really. Estate sale, found an interesting pile of novels. Got home, a letter drops out of one from Pope John Paul to a friend. They were using it as a bookmark. Very odd.
I found it at a yardsale. Apparently collecting leaves and flowers like this is a hobby.
> To Pete:
> Happy Birthday
> From David + Kal,
> (can i have my copy back now please?)
"It is a good thing to travel thus in company — sometimes."
https://www.npr.org/2022/08/02/1114851706/library-notes-book...
In a German book, some tickets to a movie theater, and a clipping about the more or less covert revival of university dueling societies in the 1950s.
The author joked that he had suggested additional CPU instructions to Commodore that weren’t accepted, such as LGN - Let’s Get Naked. In a kid’s book.
A few National security Agency Post-Its with notes.
Were these things the subject of the book?
Or some kind of hidden paper tucked away inside, left there for some now-unknown purpose, hidden and dormant for 19 years in a dusty attic in upstate New York, only later retrieved by Frans Bortenharfer?
Thank you.
(URLs can't be edited by non-admins like me)
<link rel="canonical">
That's the canonical link in the page, which points to nothing. Which I'd guess HN rewrites as just the root (what is currently being pointed to).So it's likely to have been my mistake.
Edit: I've emailed the mods.
Edit2: It's been fixed.