I kinda like js but hate php with passion. Having said that php has one really very big thing going for it - people who use it are simply addicted to getting things done.
This! I use it as a mix of web applications and back end code, like you would with python. More and more my scripts I'm writing in PHP never see a web browser but the power of PHP Data processing has allowed me to really glue APIs together that have no official support in anything. I really do love it for being able to bash out a program in a afternoon and have it do amazing things.
> Having said that php has one really very big thing going for it - people who use it are simply addicted to getting things done.
does that mean every other language the people don't get anything done?
Its more like they dont care (or know) much about software development and their priority is getting stuff out of the door.
Not at all. Just seems like PHP people are laser focus on getting things done maybe because the language and it’s runtime is so primitive there aren’t any distractions