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Rio has full fleet (bobcat, bulldozers, loaders, trains, underground mining speciality (uphole drillers, etc)) ambitions and they're working their way through them all.

[1] https://www.riotinto.com/en/about/innovation/automation

Some of their talent date back to sheep shearing robots in the early 1980s.

In the same geographic region (W.Australia) there are related automata projects such as self recharging drone clouds about tractors, agri-bots (visual identification + weed spraying), integrated geophysical air survey, etc.

I was somewhat curious as to your awareness of all this (eg: Rio's plans for a full automated "bottom up" $64 billion copper mine in the US (should it go ahead)).

Also, while we're here, do you have any in house mining | industry experience driving tractors, dump trucks, ship loading, etc. yourselves?

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I'd challenge this assertion. Rio Tinto has been on the forefront of automation, but there's a long list of equipment they operate that they don't have an immediate pathway to automate.

To my knowledge, the main players automating ultraclass mining trucks are Caterpillar, Komatsu, Hitachi, and ASI. CAT has been working on autonomy for a long time, and to my knowledge only offers full driver-out autonomy on a handful of models. Sandvik also has some really cool see-and-repeat autonomy in underground mining. It doesn't surprise me if Rio Tinto is talking about a full zero entry mine (worth it just because no people to hit = faster driving vehicles = more production/yr), but to my knowledge they buy their autonomy from others and no one I know of (besides us) would automate all the various types of equipment that go into running a mine.

A different large mining co had an initiative to build their own autonomy, but the project got cancelled when it wasn't making fast enough progress and the CEO was replaced with someone more Caterpillar friendly.

We don't have in house mining experience - but again we're not building autonomy just for mining. We're building generalized basic autonomy so the folks starting mining-specific autonomy projects don't get stuck re-building the basic autonomy wheel.

On a technical level, I'm not sure what sheep shearing robots in the 1980s has to do with automating vehicles... but I'd love to see a video/article if you've got one! :D

As with any large opportunity, there are multiple players in the space, both new and old. As seen with the "innovator's dilemma", I'm not sure I'd place my bets on tech straight out of the 1980/90s/2000s (sheep or no sheep ;) )

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