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It's incredible how long AWS supported EC2 Classic. It's a foundational networking service, and there is probably a ton of technical debt involved in maintaining it.

* Aug/2009 - VPC announced

* Dec/2013 - EC2 Classic blocked for new customers

* Jul/2021 - EC2 Classic officially deprecated

* Aug/2022 - EC2 Classic retired

It's probably going to break something when they clean up the legacy stuff too. When you keep around something for that long while building something new, the roots tend to grow into each other.

Would love to see the numbers which they surely had showing how many instances were still running on Classic over the years.

The superior pricing of new instance types that needed to be on VPC was probably as big a factor as anything in pushing people off, but there must have been lots of servers just clicking away with no one really paying attention to the billing.

Pretty legit of them to do.

This very short list totally explain why AWS is leading in the cloud and why google will never be able to catch up. AWS is providing services without breaking changes for more than a decade most of the time. Google on the other side is deprecating everything faster than your team can refactor your infra & code.

Doesn't include .NET Core 3.1 end of life which is set to happen later this year. We've been upgrading all of our Lambdas and APIs to .NET 6 to be ready for this.

3.1 will continue to work you just won’t be able to create new lambdas with it. Similar to what they do with node or did with .net 2.1.

I don't use AWS but I was curious about this. Seems like they wouldn't pull the rug out from under people like this quite that easily.

That being said, worth getting the upgrade done as soon as possible for GP's reason and others.

Are there any new players in this space? Between AWS, Azure, and Google Cloud, it seems like any attempt at cloud computing infrastructure gets eaten up and you're forced into these price hikes from this triopoly

This says it aims to track price changes, but I don't see any actually mentioned. I'm extremely wary of locking into these companies, and there are others - Linode, Vultr, Digital Ocean to name a few that give them some competition at least.

Unlike that other hyperscaler, AWS is very aware that raising prices erodes customer trust faster than deprecating the new chat app they forced on you. I am certain they’re never going to do that.

As for the other companies you mention, they don’t give the hyperscalers any serious competition. Even some of the (so called) hyperscalers are unable to compete with the other hyperscalers.

From my perspective, they're all hyperscale for whatever that's worth. It seems like we may be hitting the end of Moore's law (actually more or less on schedule) and so I wonder how these cloud companies would keep pushing costs down and lowering or even keeping prices flat. If power and engineering and hardware costs keep increasing, then at some point something has to give, though I suppose Amazon does have large margins they could potentially erode first.

I miss just working on infrastructure and not having to try and guess at an economic analysis of your suppliers to try and keep from getting crushed like an unnoticed insect on the boot of one of these companies, but perhaps it was never that simple - I was just young and inexperienced.

I don't think the end of moore's law means no reduction in prices though. A lot (most) of the cost of the chips is really the capital cost of building a new x nanometre fabs and the chip design etc. If they can be used for longer (as new smaller processes are taking longer and longer) it will still result in cost reductions, hopefully.

I've also been lead to believe that silicon wafers of appropriate purity are enormously expensive as well, so packing more transistors per unit was important for the economics there. Nevertheless, you're correct that cost pressures will probably lead to other ways of finding efficiencies. Still, it feels like the fun part of those curves are behind us these days.

It used to be that other people used to manage the “business” aspects of the job. Cloud forces that management down level.

I don’t think AWS has ever increased prices.

It has, on RDS.

Do you have a link? I didn't find anything like that with a quick search, though I don't necessarily know what I'm looking for.

I did see some complaints about RDS's pricing not falling commensurate with the prices of the underlying instances. Those are legitimate complaints, but they aren't really price increases.

Oracle, Alibaba, Tencent, IBM, etc.

Google has raised prices but has AWS?

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