Google is the next big privacy ignorer that is in my radar. The only Google product I depend on is Chrome and I am considering options to de-google my life.
So, my advice is delete FB and don't look back. You will appreciate the time you get back on your hands.
Some prior HN discussions on Brave were not confidence inspiring.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23442027
Since rejoining, I've had many nice experiences catching up with people based on their Instagram or Snapchat stories, or being in Facebook Messenger group chats, something I would not have spontaneously been able to do had it not been for these platforms.
What I miss the most is getting birthday reminders and event invites. What I miss the least is the negative feelings social media gave me about my life and the world more broadly.
What I have found is my connections with the people I keep in touch with is much deeper because I don’t let a “like” replace a true interaction. I am intentional about adding birthdays to my calendar now and once my friends realized I wasn’t hearing about events, they made sure to let me know.
I highly recommend it. Both platforms allow you to recover your account within a time frame so it’s kind of a no lose situation if you want to try it out. One recommendation before you do: make sure you download all of your pictures, videos, etc… first.
I sincerely hope you do this and wish you the best of luck if you do.
Edit: lowercased an AND and deleted and incomplete sentence
Had a few instagram accounts and deleted them all now as it just got boring after a while and nothing much of value. I had an account to enter competitions but with each one being “tag 4 friends” it was difficult as I generally just followed companies or people I didn’t feel like I could tag.
Had a twitter for a while but it became too much work trying to keep up with all the posts and eventually also tired of the same old content.
I use WhatsApp because of the network effect, as well as signal for another group of friends.
Never quite got mastodon or others of that ilk either as no one I know or wanted to follow is on those.
LinkedIn also had zero value and I ended up getting “friend requests” from my mum who I know doesn’t have an account. The dark patterns like this were enough for me to shut the door on that too.
People always complain why they can’t contact me on Facebook etc. I say you can call me, email me, WhatsApp, signal, SMS, or write me a letter. That should suffice. Really.
If this is what you want to do, truly, being honest with yourself; remember you'll need to fill the hole with something, so it's a change that comes from within.
Don't just delete it and change nothing else in your life. There are long learned habits you'll need to break. Time will need to be filled. It's like quitting cigarettes. Hard if you sit there and think about how agonizing it is, or if you're out using your lungs, finding other ways to deliver pleasure to your brain, you don't think about it (as much). Watch people around you. Do you want to become like that? Kinked neck, staring at your phone in every social setting, making sure you've got the most perfect picture to share.. stop retaking photos and just enjoy the damn view..
Don't regret it at all.
I was at a family gathering today with family I don't see terribly often (some I haven't seen in 20+ years) and got introduced a few times as "that's adam, the one without the facebook account" The net effect of it was that I got to interact and tell people about what was going on in my life and learn about what was going on in theirs, they hadn't already heard it all from Facebook.
The dog does have an instagram account though. Can't get him to delete it.
In fact, I am now a fully functioning human being and not a human doing.
would your real friends not phone you for 3-4 years. They are not your friends.
Facebook's idea of friends is not the same as having real human friends.
I didn't miss a single thing about leaving Facebook, google, Amazon and all social media including anything that collects unnecessary personal data
I have real friends now.
I am aware of the inner sense of excitement I feel when I see one of my friends calling me to have a conversation on my phone.
In comparison to reading a Facebook message about what food they just ate or when they last wiped their arse.
utilise some other means of contact
signal element Matrix Trifa
You're not wrong, there was a time when Facebook was an essential utility. I made heavy use of events, for example. That time has passed.
You should just deactivate it today. You can always reactivate if you regret it so there's no downside, but I think you'll be shocked how little you miss it.
I don't know about becoming more productive, but it's worth leaving because it's primary function these days is to waste your time and give you nothing in exchange.
Keeping in touch with family is pretty easy through calls/texts.
By the time I got rid of facebook, my feed was just full of spam and hot takes from people I didn't really interact with IRL anymore.
No regrets, I am a bit out of sync with the mainstream, but when the mainstream is all about the "outrage of the day", it might actually be a net positive.
When it comes to social contacts, my life has reverted to the 1990s standard: if you don't meet somebody in meatspace, you slowly forget about that person existing. Not totally, but "out of sight, out of mind" works.
For the most part, I think my life is better without it. On the other hand, it really sucks not having access to FB marketplace.
WTF does that mean?
Also apropos of your question in another thread about the Amish, those stories you are talking about are about a specific Mennonite group in Canada. Amish are different from Mennonites (more conservative)
One guy I met on the train told me he was a fan (I have fans?!) and asked why I didn't post on FB anymore. I kept IG alive and noticed a lot of people I used to talk to but never did anymore.
So I reactivated FB. Comments on everything on FB is still fucking toxic, probably worse than say, 4chan. I love reading comments (hence HN) but opening comments on FB is a very bad idea. A lot of people are also toxic; sole purpose is to sell something (often a political opinion or "personal branding"). So they're generally not interested in you or the conversation, only interested in looking good.
My wife told me to keep the FB active, just unfriend everyone except her. Not a terrible idea.
Trying to unfriend about 90% of friends now, down to Dunbar's number. And remove most followed pages. It becomes clearer who matters and which pages/groups matter.
It still holds up 3 years later.
I can find enough stupidity at the local pub, thank you very much!
After a few years, I'm left with just my elderly relatives on Facebook Portal (a great device that they can use) and ~5 friends that I actually care about but can't persuade to use Signal.
No regrets, however, other people using social media by the very fact that they have me as their contact had affected me adversley. Maybe there is a need for a privacy credit score thing to block people that allow anti-privacy apps to use their contacts and messaging history.
It was annoying that some dating sites required it I recall though so do consider that.
It's been a few years now, don't miss it at all.
I never could figure out how to get people to see the manipulation machines they were sucked into. It felt like I was in an episode of Star Trek the Next Generation. [1] With time the world started to see social media platforms for what the are but many continue to use it just accepting the risk/rewards. Not my cup of tea. HN is about as social-media as I get and even then I try to limit my time.
TL;DR: No regrets deleting FB. Never tried Twitter, Reddit or any of the other platforms.
[1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is12anYx2Qs [video]