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Superficially thoughtful? I grant you, that kind of stuff happens a lot, but in my opinion, that isn't what happened here. This guy makes a lot of solid points:

-There IS a lot more wasted space in the new interface. Bad.

-The new button designs ARE a lot less clear and DO take up more space. Bad.

-The information density, crucially, is much lower, without any corresponding gains to make up for it. Bad.

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Have you tried changing the density setting? It's a bit hard to find, it's the wheel beneath the page navigation, not the one in the black bar at the top. But personally I have the problem that cozy is too spacy and dense is too dense. Dense is very dense. But I agree with your points concerning the default settings for density and the other points like the button design.

Just playing the devil's advocate here, but would you not say Google's search homepage has a lot of "wasted space"? I don't think one can always make such a quick judgment about whether space is a bad thing or not.

I would not say that, no. Google's search homepage does not have a primary function that is similar in any way to Gmail's primary function.

The Gmail homepage, of course, should be showing you as much data as possible; as many emails as possible with enough contextual data and UI to read/delete/sort them.

Google's search homepage isn't an information-dense medium.

It's a fucking search dialog. It should be clear and simple.

Now: the search results pages should be informationally dense. And for the most part are (though I'm finding recent changes to be net negative).

Note that search engines which have gone in the direction of packing a shit-ton of distractions onto their homepages in a desperate move to chase "monitization" lose out -- look at Yahoo and Aol, virtually clones of one another at this point, as well as synonyms for Internet failure.

For every point he makes, there will be people who like the new way more.

And then there's the vast majority of people who don't care one way or the other.

For the people who really hate it there's always POP3 and IMAP access.

It would still be nice to be come back, say, a year later, and see if the UI concerns still hold up. There were a lot of solid complaints about the Facebook news feed right when it launched, too.

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