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This article assumes that only male actors have facial hair. That's rather nonprogressive of Disney.

Real talk, most people have some amount of facial hair, male or female. A lot of work goes into recreating it as it adds a lot of realism to a render

Disney animation and Pixar are both well known for doing that work, adding subtle hair to female faces in the movies they produce.

How unprogressive of you to focus on male/female, while neglecting people with facial deformities or people who have excessive hair growth in non-traditional facial areas. You oppressor.

I'm glad you're injecting these considerations into every possible topic. We need more of it. That way I have someone to accuse of being inconsiderate, by finding the next category that we'll divide people up by.

How unprogressive of thou to assume that I prefer being addressed as "you"! I shall not be oppressed into conforming to tyrannical social definitions.

No, it doesn't. Eyebrows are considered facial hair for this. It mentions that currently males need to shave off their mustache or beard, but that is different from saying women don't have facial hair. Most people haven't shaven off their eyebrows.

This text from the fine article:

> actors are asked to shave clean before face capture, which is very often undesirable.

Had the additional word "male" yesterday:

> male actors are asked to shave clean before face capture, which is very often undesirable.

They actually went and changed the text! That is quite typically Disney, for better or for worse. The original text is luckily preserved at the Internet Archive:

https://web.archive.org/web/20220724134011/https://studios.d...

I’m confused by your comments, which wording do you think it should have? Like parent comment already said, the presence of the word ‘male’ in that sentence does not imply an assumption that all facial hair is male; it can legitimately mean that only the male actors typically need to shave, which is usually true. Facial hair growth has sex based differences in humans, so I don’t see a problem with having the word there, nor with removing it. Why do you think it’s a problem either before or after, and why do you suggest that changing the text to fix the very issue you called out is a bad thing?

It should probably have whichever text is most accurate to whatever actually happened or is happening.

So if they did/do actually ask only the male actors, it should probably say that. If they're asked only based on the characteristics of their facial hair, it could say that.

Sure, sounds fine. That doesn’t explain why either choice deserves criticism.

Lol.

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