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Comment by suyash | Hacker News Reader

Not a SCAM but a scummy way to create ML Model based on stolen artwork.

How is it mechanically different from a human studying various artwork—besides the quantity of works studied?

The human. People all comparing it to humans here, but for humans to study art, be influenced by it and create derivative works, they have to invest their most precious resource: time. That makes all the difference.

All the difference to who? Because it takes our slug meat longer, it has more value? Sounds like jealousy on our part.

Also humans respect copyright, meaning other people's published work and don't just copy it, otherwise there are legal consequences which seem to not be the case with DALLE and others.

The scale is different. Quantity is a quality of its own, etc.

Only in a socially constructed system of intellectual property based on modern artificial scarcity for the benefit of propertyholders.

The idea that the copyright to a piece of artwork is an asset which can be owned, and therefore stolen, is a relatively recent invention of dubious social utility. For this completely new field of human endeavor, we could choose many different precedents to apply when inventing rules of conduct.

The history of private property is rife with abuse and exploitation. We should not rush to extend such ideas into new arenas.

It's not just DALLE. This logic can be applied to Imagine, Parti, Midjourney, Gato, GPT-3 and any other ML technology.

> based on stolen artwork.

if it were only trained on public artwork (where copyright has expired) would that still be a problem?

Not under the current understanding of copyright.

are all words based on stolen letters

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